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Old 11-15-2012, 01:40 PM   #41
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Honestly even if the kid did have special circumstances that is still no excuse for ignorance of the rules. The coach might have had the greatest intentions but still you can not break the rules and expect to just ask for forgiveness later and expect everyone else who has been abiding by the rules all year long to forgive you.
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They did it to protect the player. He's not had the easiest life, to put it mildly.
We will all know who the player is/was before it is over. It may take a bit to come out but you know it will eventually
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Honestly even if the kid did have special circumstances that is still no excuse for ignorance of the rules. The coach might have had the greatest intentions but still you can not break the rules and expect to just ask for forgiveness later and expect everyone else who has been abiding by the rules all year long to forgive you.
According to the State ,GC made their elgibility list for Fall sports based on the transcript they had in hand at the time.Another transcript was received at some point during the fall semester and when compiling the elgibilty list for winter sports the inelgibility of the young man was discovered.Apparently he had been in enrolled in a number of schools and GC did not receive final complete transcript until after football began.Upon learning of the error they self reported immediately.I don't think this was a case of not knowing the rules.The only question would be should they have realized they didn't have the young man's final transcript.
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Goose Creek HS/Berkeley County have filed suit. Handled by Joye Law Firm, pro bono (no cost to tax payers).
Hearing Friday morning at 9 am at Berkeley County Courthouse.

Typing this from listening to update being read on radio on Bobby's show. Will post link when it's on the News 4 website.

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The saddest part is that it's being reported that without football, this kid would be out being a menace to society. Coach Reedy and GCHS were trying to help the kid out, give him some positive direction in his life, and they say it looked like he was turning his life around.
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after hearing more about it today it sounds like Goose Creek is getting screwed. The kid played 4 years of basket ball and no football at Berkley then transferred and played football this year. He was cleared to play because the year on the transcript had him as three years in and one left. Then when they checked basketball they found that the date had been corrected on the transcript. They did what they were supposed to do. Their coach even said he would resign if it would allow the kids to play. Those kids did nothing wrong.

The Byrnes situation is not the same because it was the regular season.

However I do have an issue with the fact that there is no consistency. The committee voted 9-2 for removing them from the playoffs and then they re-vote after the mercy hearing and now it is 10-1? One member on the executive committee this year started a motion to allow a player to be eligible for Byrnes (8th-9th grade) after transferring from Dorman. voted down 8-3. Then ten minutes later the same member starts a motion to not allow a player to be eligible after transferring with the same exact family situation and grade levels. There should be no appeal. The rule is the rule. However I believe the rule is wrong. You shouldn't have to sit out a year and you should have 4 years period. You shouldn't have to sit out any either.

Look at the Marlboro/ Northwestern fight from what 10 years ago. They were both banned from playoffs. Told to keep their noses clean and they might be let in. Appeal denied. Then look at the Summerville/ Stratford fight in 2009. They appeal and they are let back in.

Then My other big problem is the hearing last night being closed door meeting. It is a public entity that receives public funds it is public record the doors should have been open and the player's situation discussed without naming him.
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Initially I had heard that GC asked for it to be closed door. Now I'm not so sure that they did.

This kid also "played" in the regular season.
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after hearing more about it today it sounds like Goose Creek is getting screwed. The kid played 4 years of basket ball and no football at Berkley then transferred and played football this year. He was cleared to play because the year on the transcript had him as three years in and one left. Then when they checked basketball they found that the date had been corrected on the transcript. They did what they were supposed to do. Their coach even said he would resign if it would allow the kids to play. Those kids did nothing wrong.

The Byrnes situation is not the same because it was the regular season.

However I do have an issue with the fact that there is no consistency. The committee voted 9-2 for removing them from the playoffs and then they re-vote after the mercy hearing and now it is 10-1? One member on the executive committee this year started a motion to allow a player to be eligible for Byrnes (8th-9th grade) after transferring from Dorman. voted down 8-3. Then ten minutes later the same member starts a motion to not allow a player to be eligible after transferring with the same exact family situation and grade levels. There should be no appeal. The rule is the rule. However I believe the rule is wrong. You shouldn't have to sit out a year and you should have 4 years period. You shouldn't have to sit out any either.

Look at the Marlboro/ Northwestern fight from what 10 years ago. They were both banned from playoffs. Told to keep their noses clean and they might be let in. Appeal denied. Then look at the Summerville/ Stratford fight in 2009. They appeal and they are let back in.

Then My other big problem is the hearing last night being closed door meeting. It is a public entity that receives public funds it is public record the doors should have been open and the player's situation discussed without naming him.
You have been listening to Jim Baxter way to much.
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yep yep and he is right. would have gave him some credit but wasn't sure who it was
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Whether or not Jim Baxter said it, Goose Creek is getting screwed, and the SCHSL are the all time kings of inconsistency.
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Goose Creek/BCSD are presenting their arguments now.

SCHSL has attorneys there as well.

No matter the decision, both sides can appeal immediately. This could be a long day. I see tonight's game being postponed until tomorrow.

Issue was discovered by GC Hoops Coach when reviewing transcripts. Atty saying that student was home schooled, never actually attended Woodmont HS in Simpsonville, never participated in extracurriculars so still eligible.

On news last night that they are also going to try the ADA angle as kid falls under the ADA.
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https://twitter.com/ABCNews4

ABC News 4 in Charleston is giving live tweets from the courtroom.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:47 AM   #54
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The SCHSL is a joke. Different set of rules for different schools. 2 kids transfer from out of state due to parents getting new jobs, one goes to school A other to school B. Kid at school A gets cleared within a week to do sports, other kid is told he has to sit out a year because of the transfer rules.

If you play an illegal player it should be the same punishment regardless of when it happens. The thing is, the SCHSL stands to make more money off of some teams being in the postseason and playing home games than they do others.

This isn't the first time, schools have been banned for things before only to have other schools do the same thing and get back in.
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Court is in recess to review, decision expected within the hour.
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The judge ruled that Goose Creek can play tonight BUT they reconvene back in court on Monday (if Goose Creek wins tonight) and could rule against Goose Creek and they would be out...CRAZY
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Hooray for GC! Temporary fix for now, but at least they get to play what may be their last game and the seniors can go at it at least one more time.

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Honestly...the SCHSL should have protected a match up between GC and Bluffton form the beginning. This will be one HELLUVA game tonight.
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Court is in recess to review, decision expected within the hour.

Great for my GCHS Gators! I'm a 1978 alumni and former Gator tight end/linebacker.

I cannot imagine the SCHSL will rule them ineligible next week. What mess if they do. Gotta figure the writing's on the wall if the judge saw the merits in postponing a disqualification and it sounds like the defense attorney's have put together a compelling arguement now certifying his eligibility.
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