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Old 11-15-2012, 09:47 PM   #21
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if you remember about Chris white...he almost never played. remember he had a neck issue...I want to say thin neck bones or something. they were afraid of him breaking his neck.


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Old 11-15-2012, 10:05 PM   #22
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I don't see Stadniks or Elliot as being as talented or experienced as Matulis. Not at all.
How much eligibility does Elliott have left? He's one mean mother.
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We will only be as good as our OL.
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I have a question for someone on here that has played OL or understands the position very well. I have a few friends that played there in the 60's and 70's, but never with a offense like we have. Question, it seems to me it would be easier rather than more difficult to block on zone read plays because the QB reads where the OL blocks are going and then makes a decision based on that as to whether he keeps it or not and where the play is going. In other words, the OL takes the DL/LB where he wants to go, opening the hole for the QB/RB.....so the OL uses zone blocking.
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If there is a zone block you really dont know ahead of time who your man is until the ball is snapped.
I saw AJ Cann let a LB through because the LB delayed his blitz. Cann thinks he has no one to block so he goes to help out Shell. The LB then scooted straight in behind Cann right to Shaw.
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AJ Cann will likely take over Center duties next year.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:50 AM   #27
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AJ Cann will likely take over Center duties next year.
No he won't that would be a horrible move
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if you remember about Chris white...he almost never played. remember he had a neck issue...I want to say thin neck bones or something. they were afraid of him breaking his neck.


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If there is a zone block you really dont know ahead of time who your man is until the ball is snapped.
I saw AJ Cann let a LB through because the LB delayed his blitz. Cann thinks he has no one to block so he goes to help out Shell. The LB then scooted straight in behind Cann right to Shaw.
And that is why we need to drop the zone read crap and play a conventional under center formation with the I when we run. The only reason we run this zone is because Shaw is not a drop back passer. I know Spurrier would give his left nut to have that.
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And that is why we need to drop the zone read crap and play a conventional under center formation with the I when we run. The only reason we run this zone is because Shaw is not a drop back passer.
And drop those dam zone blitzes as well....
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I thought there was talk in the spring earlier this year that Ronald Patrick to Center for the 2012 season was being looked at? Obviously it didnt happen considering TJ has played center all year but with him now graduating and if my claim is true then e should be seeing Ronald Patrick taking over the center position. His bio on GamecocksOnline said he was TJ's backup for the 2010 season (2011: Sophomore offensive lineman who moved back to his more familiar position of guard in the spring after spending last fall as the backup center behind T.J. Johnson...)
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While Rok was fantastic at guard last year, I stll expected a lot more from Patrick. Watch him on the 4th and 6 TD play vs. Ark....seems to have these wtf plays every game. He is the weak link, imo.

Agree, he turns and blocks no one way too often. He's got the size for sure but we need to upgrade the play at that position. My money is on the Stadnicks to get some snaps next season. The boys are beasts, from my neck of the woods.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:01 AM   #33
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I have a question for someone on here that has played OL or understands the position very well. I have a few friends that played there in the 60's and 70's, but never with a offense like we have. Question, it seems to me it would be easier rather than more difficult to block on zone read plays because the QB reads where the OL blocks are going and then makes a decision based on that as to whether he keeps it or not and where the play is going. In other words, the OL takes the DL/LB where he wants to go, opening the hole for the QB/RB.....so the OL uses zone blocking.
I played OL in HS and college, and now I'm a high school OL coach/Offensive Coordinator. What is your question, because I don't see one....?
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Sorry, I can't let this go. Before you try to call out a young man for "whiffing" you need to know a little bit about his assignment on said play. The play Marcus was injured on was a Power O play, where the backside guard pulls and wraps to the playside Linebacker. He missed the playside backer, but the guy who injured marcus was the corner at the bottom of the field. His assignment is look inside-out. He does look, but he just passes him up, for whatever reason. Maybe he thought the guy was too far inside, IDK, but he was not the cause of Marcus' injury, the DB going for his knee, while it was firmly planted to make a cut was the cause.

I agree with you. I think I am in the minority here with regard to the hit on Marcus though. Admittingly I am coming at this from the mindset that you get a ball carrier down by any legal means necessary. I'm not even going to get into what I feel are BS rules to protect the QB and recievers, I'll just focus on getting a ball carrier down. If I'm out there trying to make a play on a back like ML I am NOT going to hit that guy high in the open field...straight up and man to man is different but if he has room to manuver I am going low and I am going to take his legs, knees, ankles out the best way that I can. I always tried my best to not only go low on big backs but to also wrap up around the knees and ankles...whatever I could get a hold on. I do not think that is dirty, it is just hard nosed football...by the rules as they exist today.
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if you remember about Chris white...he almost never played. remember he had a neck issue...I want to say thin neck bones or something. they were afraid of him breaking his neck.


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Chris White played almost his entire senior season no?
if I remember correctly they found it when he was a freshmen...I think he almost never played a down for us, instead played 4 or 5 years


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