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Old 11-16-2012, 05:31 PM   #1361
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Actual ratings in parenthesis.

2002:
Ricardo Hurley - 5 star (3...never became big time LB)
Randy Jackson - 5 star (2...JUCO DT...never started)
Darel Slay - 5 star (3...JUCO DE/LB)
Aryhel Freeman -4 star (1...RS FR...may have never played...no stats)
Kenny Irons - 4 star (2 for us, 4.5 for AU)
Jabari Levy - 4 star (4...wish he played for Shawn Elliott)
Corey Peoples - 4 star (2 JUCO S/LB)
Moe Thompson - 4 star (4...never played his 4th season)
Troy Williamson - 4 star (4...based upon big plays)

2003:
Demetris Summers - 5 star (3...overall Cory Boyd has better stats for '03-'04)
Marcus Lawrence - 4 star (3 or 4...JUCO 2 years)
Blake Mitchell - 4 star (4)
Syvelle Newton - 4 star (4)

2004:
Marque Hall - 4 star (4 before he got hurt)
C.J. Barber - 4 star (0)
Dorian Capers - 4 star (0)

2005:
Jonathan Hannah - 4 star (0)
O.J. Murdock - 4 star (2)
Carlos Thomas - 4 star (3...WR converted to CB....got beat out by Stoney Woodson his SR year)

2006:
Garrett Anderson - 4 star (3)
Kenrick Ellis - 4 star (3 in what little he played)
Hutch Eckerson - 4 star (4...had a good Sr season)
Chris Smelley - 4 star (3)
Kevin Young - 4 star (1)

2007:
Chris Culliver - 5 star (4.5....injuries...lots of forgotten big plays + return guy)
Cliff Matthews - 4 star (4)
Mark Barnes - 4 star (0)
Stephen Garcia - 4 star (3)
Dion Lecorn - 4 star (3..injuries sucked for Dion)
Quintin Richardson - 4 star (0)
Travian Robertson - 4 star (4)
Ladi Ajiboye - 4 star (3)
Jason Barnes - 4 star (2)
Clifton Geathers - 4 star (3....got beat out by Devin Taylor)
Joseph Hills - 4 star (2)
Melvin Ingram - 4 star (6...beast Sr season)
Brian Maddox - 4 star (3...did better in zone offense)
Weslye Saunders - 4 star (4....when playing)

2008:
Eric Baker - 4 star (2....injuries)
CC Whitlock - 4 star (3...best year was Sr.)
Antonio Allen -4 star (5...big play guy)
Jarriel King - 4 star (3)
Akeem Auguste - 4 star (3...injuries)

2009:
Stephon Gilmore - 4 star (4.5)
Damario Jeffrey - 4 star (3)
Jarvis Giles - 4 star (2)
Alshon Jeffery - 4 star (6....game changer)
Leon Mackey - 4 star (0)
Tony Straughter - 4 star (JUCO 4 his Sr. season)
Chaz Sutton - 4 star (4)
Ben Axon - 4 star (0)
Ronald Byrd - 4 star (0)
Duane Chisolm - 4 star (0)
Matt Coffee - 4 star (1...injuries...never got a chance)
Josh Dickerson - 4 star (JUCO 4 star his Sr. season)
Devonte Holloman - 4 star (4)
Lamar Scruggs - 4 star (2)

2010:
Marcus Lattimore - 5 star (5...injuries...10 star fan fave)
Victor Hampton - 4 star (3.5..still developing...needs to stay)
A.J. Cann - 4 star (3.5...still developing)
Qua Gilchrist - 4 star (3...JUCO convert to FB.)
Ace Sanders -4 star (5....counting returns)

2011:
Jadeveon Clowney - 5 star (6....game changer)
Kelcy Quarles - 4 star (4)
Brandon Shell - 4 star (3...still developing)
Damiere Byrd - 4 star (3...still developing)
Philip Dukes - 4 star (0...not developed)
Sheldon Royster - 4 star (0)
Brison Williams - 4 star (3...still developing)

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Mike, did you see Vic last weekend? The dude was missing tackles left and right! He was out of position, wasn't wrapping up, and was getting bounced like a ping pong ball. The dude can cover, but his fundamentals are a steaming pile of ____!
Exactly what I saw as well
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Vic is crazy if he plans to turn pro after this season
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I forgot how good the 2007 class was. 6 in the NFL
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:24 PM   #1365
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Exactly what I saw as well

For a Sophmore, he has been a starting CB in the SEC vs heavyweights.. What else do you want? Next year is telling, though
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:49 AM   #1368
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Further proof that it's not just all about a star rating.
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:58 PM   #1369
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On the flip side here are the the 2-star players using Rivals ratings since 2002. Lets hear your thoughts.

Many did not contribute but there are a few diamonds in the rough - Ko Simpson, Captain Munnerlyn, Patrick DiMarco, Justice Cunningham. One thing to note is the sheer number of 2-stars in Lou's last class. Writing was on the wall that he was on the way out.

2002:
Kris Clark - 2 star
Bennett Swygert - 2 star

2003:
William Brown - 2 star
Stanley Doughty - 2 star
Josh Johnson - 2 star
David Laggis - 2 star
Robert Pavlovic - 2 star

2004:
John Paul Gillis - 2 star
Chris Hampton - 2 star
Tremel Kline - 2 star
Antonio Lamar - 2 star
Dusty Lindsey - 2 star
Jordin Lindsey - 2 star
Jamon Meredith - 2 star
Alonzo Middleton - 2 star
Grayson Mullins - 2 star
Brandon Samuels - 2 star
Ko Simpson - 2 star
Evan Spanogians - 2 star
Gurminder Thind - 2 star
Trent Usher - 2 star
Stoney Woodson - 2 star

2005:
Yvan Banag - 2 star
Tommy Beecher - 2 star
Mychal Belcher - 2 star
Brent Davis - 2 star
Cade Thompson - 2 star
Jeremy Ware - 2 star

2006:
Pierre Andrews - 2 star
Ryan Broadhead - 2 star
Chris Hail - 2 star
Captain Munnerlyn - 2 star

2007:
Patrick DiMarco - 2 star
Byron McKnight - 2 star
Arkee Smith - 2 star

2008:
Ryan Doerr - 2 star
Mike Triglia - 2 star

2009:
DeMario Bennett - 2 star
Justice Cunningham - 2 star
Charles Holmes - 2 star
Kevious Watkins - 2 star

2010:
Javon Bell - 2 star
Patrick Fish - 2 star
Byron Jerideau - 2 star
Corey Simmons - 2 star
J.T. Surratt - 2 star
Dylan Thompson - 2 star

2011:
None

2012:
Nick St. Germain - 2 star
Mason Zandi - 2 star
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Actual ratings in parenthesis.

2002:
Ricardo Hurley - 5 star (3...never became big time LB)
Randy Jackson - 5 star (2...JUCO DT...never started)
Darel Slay - 5 star (3...JUCO DE/LB)
Aryhel Freeman -4 star (1...RS FR...may have never played...no stats)
Kenny Irons - 4 star (2 for us, 4.5 for AU)
Jabari Levy - 4 star (4...wish he played for Shawn Elliott)
Corey Peoples - 4 star (2 JUCO S/LB)
Moe Thompson - 4 star (4...never played his 4th season)
Troy Williamson - 4 star (4...based upon big plays)

2003:
Demetris Summers - 5 star (3...overall Cory Boyd has better stats for '03-'04)
Marcus Lawrence - 4 star (3 or 4...JUCO 2 years)
Blake Mitchell - 4 star (4)
Syvelle Newton - 4 star (4)

2004:
Marque Hall - 4 star (4 before he got hurt)
C.J. Barber - 4 star (0)
Dorian Capers - 4 star (0)

2005:
Jonathan Hannah - 4 star (0)
O.J. Murdock - 4 star (2)
Carlos Thomas - 4 star (3...WR converted to CB....got beat out by Stoney Woodson his SR year)

2006:
Garrett Anderson - 4 star (3)
Kenrick Ellis - 4 star (3 in what little he played)
Hutch Eckerson - 4 star (4...had a good Sr season)
Chris Smelley - 4 star (3)
Kevin Young - 4 star (1)

2007:
Chris Culliver - 5 star (4.5....injuries...lots of forgotten big plays + return guy)
Cliff Matthews - 4 star (4)
Mark Barnes - 4 star (0)
Stephen Garcia - 4 star (3)
Dion Lecorn - 4 star (3..injuries sucked for Dion)
Quintin Richardson - 4 star (0)
Travian Robertson - 4 star (4)
Ladi Ajiboye - 4 star (3)
Jason Barnes - 4 star (2)
Clifton Geathers - 4 star (3....got beat out by Devin Taylor)
Joseph Hills - 4 star (2)
Melvin Ingram - 4 star (6...beast Sr season)
Brian Maddox - 4 star (3...did better in zone offense)
Weslye Saunders - 4 star (4....when playing)

2008:
Eric Baker - 4 star (2....injuries)
CC Whitlock - 4 star (3...best year was Sr.)
Antonio Allen -4 star (5...big play guy)
Jarriel King - 4 star (3)
Akeem Auguste - 4 star (3...injuries)

2009:
Stephon Gilmore - 4 star (4.5)
Damario Jeffrey - 4 star (3)
Jarvis Giles - 4 star (2)
Alshon Jeffery - 4 star (6....game changer)
Leon Mackey - 4 star (0)
Tony Straughter - 4 star (JUCO 4 his Sr. season)
Chaz Sutton - 4 star (4)
Ben Axon - 4 star (0)
Ronald Byrd - 4 star (0)
Duane Chisolm - 4 star (0)
Matt Coffee - 4 star (1...injuries...never got a chance)
Josh Dickerson - 4 star (JUCO 4 star his Sr. season)
Devonte Holloman - 4 star (4)
Lamar Scruggs - 4 star (2)

2010:
Marcus Lattimore - 5 star (5...injuries...10 star fan fave)
Victor Hampton - 4 star (3.5..still developing...needs to stay)
A.J. Cann - 4 star (3.5...still developing)
Qua Gilchrist - 4 star (3...JUCO convert to FB.)
Ace Sanders -4 star (5....counting returns)

2011:
Jadeveon Clowney - 5 star (6....game changer)
Kelcy Quarles - 4 star (4)
Brandon Shell - 4 star (3...still developing)
Damiere Byrd - 4 star (3...still developing)
Philip Dukes - 4 star (0...not developed)
Sheldon Royster - 4 star (0)
Brison Williams - 4 star (3...still developing)



I would like to comment on a few of these players. Some of these kids had a lot of potential to be great players and just did not have the mental or work ethic it took to be the "best that they could be". A few of these players had to play on teams that were not that good. A good case in point was Blake Mitchell. I believe if Blake Mitchell were playing today with the talent on this team, he would "light up the scoreboard for us". Sad, that he had to sit a couple of years under Lou and then play for SOS and he never had a good O-Line to protect him. The same can be said for Syvelle Newton, who was a great player too.

Kenrick Ellis could have been a huge success here if he could have been more mature about certain things. Cliff Matthews was a very good ballplayer and I wished that he would have had more help on the D-Line at times and maybe he would have played at a higher level. He still was a very good player.

Cliffton Geathers, I always thought that he was a huge waste of talent and could have been "All World" if he had tried harder.

C. C. Whitlock, I never thought that he was a great player. A fill in player at best.

Phillip Dukes, I don't know about this young man. Hopefully, he will pick his game up and become the player everyone thought that he would be. He came in highly recruited and has just not lived up to expectations even though he still has time to show us if he can play at this level.
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Culliver's college career was really underrated because of a few blown plays and one horrible game. For the most part he was really, really good though.
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:36 PM   #1372
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Duane Chisolm - 4 star No...although I'm tempted to say yes.
Matt Coffee - 4 star No
Why? Chisolm never even made it to a practice at Carolina

Coffee was ruined by two torn ACL'S
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Brian Maddox - 4 star - Legit rating, slightly overhyped by ESPN docudrama, should get additional star for kicking Auburn guy in face.

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What does "less hair" mean?

Less off the field, academic, attitude, character or other ancillary issues.
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Fun fact: Dorian Capers graduated from my school(small private school in the middle of nowhere)




Annnnnnnnd all he did was disappoint.. and rob people at knifepoint
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Why? Chisolm never even made it to a practice at Carolina

Coffee was ruined by two torn ACL'S

Thanks for catching that. I was thinking of someone one else with Chisolm and forgot that Coffee had the injuries.

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Some were bust and some did pretty good...But as you get closer in the years to 2012...There seems to be more lived up toos than busts...
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Taking it way back on you guys .. Obviously there are quite a few players in the older classes that either didn't make it into school or left before they saw the field and it is too soon to make a determination on the recent classes but lets hear your thoughts. This is using Rivals ratings for every 4 and 5 star since 2002.

I tell you the first thing I notice is there is about a 50/50, maybe 60/40 split on guys that did and didn't pan out.

Not trying to make a point or anything, just offering a discussion topic on a slow Friday afternoon.

2002:

Ricardo Hurley - 5 star NO
Randy Jackson - 5 star NO
Darel Slay - 5 star NO
Aryhel Freeman -4 star - meh
Kenny Irons - 4 star - NOT AT USC...dammit
Jabari Levy - 4 star - YES
Corey Peoples - 4 star - NO
Moe Thompson - 4 star - YES, but he messed up big time and it cost him.
Troy Williamson - 4 star - YES

2003:

Demetris Summers - 5 star
Marcus Lawrence - 4 star
Blake Mitchell - 4 star
Syvelle Newton - 4 star

2004:

Marque Hall - 4 star
C.J. Barber - 4 star
Dorian Capers - 4 star

2005:

Jonathan Hannah - 4 star - NO
O.J. Murdock - 4 star -NO, RIP
Carlos Thomas - 4 star - YES, but at CB, not WR

2006:

Garrett Anderson - 4 star -YES
Kenrick Ellis - 4 star- We will never know
Hutch Eckerson - 4 star- YES, would have liked to see him develop sooner.
Chris Smelley - 4 star- NO
Kevin Young - 4 star- HELL NO

2007:

Chris Culliver - 5 star- YES, we moved him too much, but we had to.
Cliff Matthews - 4 star - YES, more than expected
Mark Barnes - 4 star- NO
Stephen Garcia - 4 star - Meh, he was good when he wanted to be.
Dion Lecorn - 4 star - YES, I blame injuries, not him.
Quintin Richardson - 4 star - NO
Travian Robertson - 4 star- YES, really thought he did well despite injury.
Ladi Ajiboye - 4 star- YES, he just sucked during his pro day.
Jason Barnes - 4 star- NO
Clifton Geathers - 4 star - YES, he was good
Joseph Hills - 4 star - NO, a big bust
Melvin Ingram - 4 star - HELLS YES, beyond expectations.
Brian Maddox - 4 star - NO...and it's weird, I expected more
Weslye Saunders - 4 star - YES, he was really good...on the field.

2008:

Eric Baker - 4 star -NO, but blame injuries.
CC Whitlock - 4 star - YES, we were just deep at CB when he was here.
Antonio Allen -4 star - YES, played like a 5 Star his Sr year.
Jarriel King - 4 star - YES, he was really good, and we moved him a lot.
Akeem Auguste - 4 star - YES, injuries but fought through them.

2009:

Stephon Gilmore - 4 star - YES, should've been a 5 star.
Damario Jeffrey - 4 star - NO, that ACL hurt him.
Jarvis Giles - 4 star - Who...NO
Alshon Jeffery - 4 star- YES, Should've been a 5 star.
Leon Mackey - 4 star - NO, didn't he not ever get here?
Tony Straughter - 4 star - YES, he was a good fill-in JUCO LB.
Chaz Sutton - 4 star - If you asked me 3 months ago, NO, today though YES.
Ben Axon - 4 star - Not fair, he never came.
Ronald Byrd - 4 star - NO
Duane Chisolm - 4 star - Not fair, he never came.
Matt Coffee - 4 star - NO, but had injuries
Josh Dickerson - 4 star YES, he was a good fill-in JUCO LB.
Devonte Holloman - 4 star YES, He should get drafted high.
Lamar Scruggs - 4 star NO

2010:

Marcus Lattimore - 5 star YES
Victor Hampton - 4 star -YES
A.J. Cann - 4 star -YES
Qua Gilchrist - 4 star -NO
Ace Sanders -4 star -YES

2011:

Jadeveon Clowney - 5 star YES
Kelcy Quarles - 4 star YES
Brandon Shell - 4 star YES, so far, but jury is still out.
Damiere Byrd - 4 star YES, so far, but jury is still out.
Philip Dukes - 4 star NO
Sheldon Royster - 4 star NO, but he never played/ really practiced
Brison Williams - 4 star YES

2012:

Mike Davis - 4 star YES
Shaq Roland - 4 star NO
Jerell Adams - 4 star YES
Jordan Diggs - 4 star YES, but hasn't played alot
Chaz Elder - 4 star...IDK, hasn't played.
Jody Fuller - 4 star...IDK, hasn't played.
Joe Harris -4 star...IDK, hasn't played or is even in Columbia.
Brock Stadnik - 4 star IDK, hasn't played
Overall, still early for the '12 and '11 guys. I think we are a deep enough team that we SHOULDN'T expect any freshman to come in right away like Lattimore did. Also, it often takes 2 full seasons for these guys to get up to SEC speed of things.

Also noticed that we had a better track record for player development since Spurrier got here.
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