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Old 11-18-2012, 12:54 AM   #41
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I've read there's a 'gentleman's agreement' between the SEC prez/ads not to bring in new schools from states which are already represented in the conference. I think GaTech would especially be a long shot, as that might weaken UGAs position (e.g. in recruiting) - and we all know how the central office loves UGA. UNC would be a great addition, but with their basketball tradition in the ACC, I would bet against that one, too. I'd be fine with either UVA or VaTech, and like I say the latter appeals to a broader market.
I don't know about a gentleman's agreement, but SC, Fla, KY, Ga, Tenn have an agreement that says they will veto any team put up in one of their states.

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Other than TV markets, Maryland and Rutgers bring nothing to the Big 10/12. If they add those two middle the pack members, they should change their name to the 'Not So Big 14'.
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I've read there's a 'gentleman's agreement' between the SEC prez/ads not to bring in new schools from states which are already represented in the conference. I think GaTech would especially be a long shot, as that might weaken UGAs position (e.g. in recruiting) - and we all know how the central office loves UGA. UNC would be a great addition, but with their basketball tradition in the ACC, I would bet against that one, too. I'd be fine with either UVA or VaTech, and like I say the latter appeals to a broader market.
While I agree VA Tech is, at this point, is the more likely of the 2 possible schools from VA, I would argue that UVA is a better fit for a lot of reasons. 1st, As we all know UVA is a very prestigious and pretentious school; I know this first hand as most of my family, excluding myself, are graduates. There is some serious money waiting in the winds to be spent by boosters from this school and they are hungry for success. VA Tech has maxed out in this category. I believe there is about the same, if not a bigger following of UVA than VA Tech, Uva fans just havent seen success, in this regard they are very similar to USC when we joined the SEC. 2nd, as the SEC will continue to dominate the CFB rankings academics will come under more scrutiny and UVA would be a potential role model for other schools in the SEC as they consistently have the top, if not close to the top, GPA of all CFB teams every single year. Third, and most important in my mind, the southern history, heritage and traditions of UVA are much more ingrained and colorful than the Hookies. VA Tech fans are very similar to Taters, UVA is school with class. Fth, their uniforms and colors are much, much better than Tech's. 5th, it would be years before UVA would be competitive in FB which keeps USC in a stronger position in the east. Lastly, we are the top, and only, birds in the SEC, who wants to see a battle of the chickens every year (yes, i know they are turkeys but this is what the joke will be)?
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While I agree VA Tech is, at this point, is the more likely of the 2 possible schools from VA, I would argue that UVA is a better fit for a lot of reasons. 1st, As we all know UVA is a very prestigious and pretentious school; I know this first hand as most of my family, excluding myself, are graduates. There is some serious money waiting in the winds to be spent by boosters from this school and they are hungry for success. VA Tech has maxed out in this category. I believe there is about the same, if not a bigger following of UVA than VA Tech, Uva fans just havent seen success, in this regard they are very similar to USC when we joined the SEC. 2nd, as the SEC will continue to dominate the CFB rankings academics will come under more scrutiny and UVA would be a potential role model for other schools in the SEC as they consistently have the top, if not close to the top, GPA of all CFB teams every single year. Third, and most important in my mind, the southern history, heritage and traditions of UVA are much more ingrained and colorful than the Hookies. VA Tech fans are very similar to Taters, UVA is school with class. Fth, their uniforms and colors are much, much better than Tech's. 5th, it would be years before UVA would be competitive in FB which keeps USC in a stronger position in the east. Lastly, we are the top, and only, birds in the SEC, who wants to see a battle of the chickens every year (yes, i know they are turkeys but this is what the joke will be)?
Which North Carolina school would the SEC steal from the ACC? Can't have a team in Virginia and not one in NC.
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Which North Carolina school would the SEC steal from the ACC? Can't have a team in Virginia and not one in NC.
Agreed. Either NC State or UNC.... I don't have an opinion one way or the other. Was just sharing my opinon that UVA is a better option than VA Tech.
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State of VA went through a lot to get Va Tech in th same conference as UVA.
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State of VA went through a lot to get Va Tech in th same conference as UVA.
Do you think they'll let them leave?
I'm not familiar with what the state of VA did or did not do to encourage/help VA Tech to join to the ACC. From what I remember the drama at that time revolved more around Miami and Boston College.
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Agreed. Either NC State or UNC.... I don't have an opinion one way or the other. Was just sharing my opinon that UVA is a better option than VA Tech.
UNC will never leave the ACC.....it will be NC State. I've talked to a few well-connected State Alums in the last couple of months and they say State is ready to bolt the ACC. They don't think the ACC will ever be able to compete with the other 4
big conferences, and eventually, the ACC's less money for their members will bring down the conference.
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State of VA went through a lot to get Va Tech in th same conference as UVA.
Do you think they'll let them leave?
I live in Virginia, and if Tech tried to leave the ACC, there would be political chaos in VA, especially since it took the governor begging UVA to lobby to let them in.
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I read on Twitter that Maryland is supposed to be voting on this tomorrow. I didn't realize it was that close.
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Will be interesting to see if FSU sees this as its time to leave too.
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Will be interesting to see if FSU sees this as its time to leave too.
Them and Georgia Tech want out right now, from what I have seen on the Internet.
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What will happen next? They will definitely hunt someone down so that the Legends and Losers...erm, leaders division are even. Who is next? Rutgers? Someone else?

Possibilities that I could see are:

Iowa State, Kansas State (Both are Good Geographic fits, would have thought more so last season, when it looked like the Big 12-4+2 would disappear.) Virginia Tech (better SEC fit though), Cincinnati, Louisville.

Clemson is a good fit, just like the rest of the Big10+1+1+1, they always think they are the best team in the country because they were a powerhouse more than 30 years ago.

And what will happen to the ACC? FSU is rumored to be gone, but I don't know where they will go. UF, UGA, SC, and others will block entry into the SEC. Big 12 maybe?

And who takes Marylands spot? Probably UConn, or if they wanted to surprise everyone, USF. Rutgers is possible, if they don't go to the Big 10+1+1+1

Get ready for never-ending conference realignment.
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