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Old 11-18-2012, 07:38 PM   #41
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Some of you really think we only have a 38% chance of winning just because of past teams games that the line was -4??? That is so stupid. What do you those other teams and games have to do with our game on Saturday? NOTHING.
Not sure what you are arguing with here. It is a fact. I never said anything SPECIFIC to our game. But how can you argue that STATISTICALLY over many, many games that the home team that is a 4 point favorite wins 62% of the time.

That is like arguing that if you flip a coin, it isn't going to come up heads 50% of the time if you flip it enough. Sorry, but it is and nothing is going to change that. No one is saying that if you flip it twice, it can't come up heads twice.

What does it have to do with our game?? What it has to do with our game is that right now the spread is 4 points in favor of the home time and that the home team, in this situation, wins 62% of the time. These stats don't care that it is Clemson or SC. It is simply a statistical analysis.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:00 PM   #42
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Reason #1 why I couldn't care less about the line this week: We were 2 point favorites going into the 63-17 night from hell.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:34 PM   #43
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Some of you really think we only have a 38% chance of winning just because of past teams games that the line was -4??? That is so stupid. What do you those other teams and games have to do with our game on Saturday? NOTHING.
FYI: we were not 28 point favorites going into the UGA game.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:56 PM   #44
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Well, no matter what the opening line is, right now Clemson is #11 in the BCS and we're 12th. So we need to win.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:59 PM   #45
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Not sure what you are arguing with here. It is a fact. I never said anything SPECIFIC to our game. But how can you argue that STATISTICALLY over many, many games that the home team that is a 4 point favorite wins 62% of the time.

That is like arguing that if you flip a coin, it isn't going to come up heads 50% of the time if you flip it enough. Sorry, but it is and nothing is going to change that. No one is saying that if you flip it twice, it can't come up heads twice.

What does it have to do with our game?? What it has to do with our game is that right now the spread is 4 points in favor of the home time and that the home team, in this situation, wins 62% of the time. These stats don't care that it is Clemson or SC. It is simply a statistical analysis.
lies, damn lies, and statics. Your numbers are just that... numbers. they have nothing to do with the football game
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:01 PM   #46
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lies, damn lies, and statics. Your numbers are just that... numbers. they have nothing to do with the football game
They simply say that the home team that is 4 point favorite wins 62% of the time. No more, no less.
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They simply say that the home team that is 4 point favorite wins 62% of the time. No more, no less.
cool. and if we win or lose... it changes the statistic.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:34 PM   #48
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/\never seen anyone get so pissed at soneone stating a statistical fact of data. if you were king i bet you would always kill the messenger carrying a note of fact written by someone else.
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i just dont put stock into statistics especially in sports
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:36 PM   #50
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Have these seniors lost to Clemsuck? Why start now? After morris leaves, two years later they fire dabo. It's all down hill from there.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:58 AM   #51
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Clemson -4 is the line right now.
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If we play like we played against Georgia we win. Play like we did against TN, Arky or Wofford we lose.

I think we'll play somewhere between those two levels of play and I think that will get us a loss...probably by 14 points.

Clemson can't play defense worth a crap, but we can't play offense either and our play calling has been conservative as hell. That translates to a two touchdown clem-tech win.

Sucks a wet one...but that's the way I see it.

Hope I'm wrong.
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If we play like we played against Georgia we win. Play like we did against TN, Arky or Wofford we lose.

I think we'll play somewhere between those two levels of play and I think that will get us a loss...probably by 14 points.

Clemson can't play defense worth a crap, but we can't play offense either and our play calling has been conservative as hell. That translates to a two touchdown clem-tech win.

Sucks a wet one...but that's the way I see it.

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Not following you on the TN and Ark point of view. If we play like we did against TN and Ark, we win. We scored 38 points in those games and Clemson's defense is certainly no better than Tenn or Arkansas.

38 points gets us a victory against Clemson. Probably not by much, but still a victory.

So I am really not following you on how us playing like we did in those two game would end up in a loss.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:55 AM   #54
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The GarnetMike from last year is back. He always had us losing every game.
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