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Old 11-18-2012, 11:16 PM   #61
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I hear ya. I say we could not that we will. Also the wofford game is an outlier in my opinion.
An outlier? So, you're saying that our OL hasn't played average to below average on a semi regular basis this year? We haven't run blocked very well all year and our pass protection has been decent at times, but very inconsistent. I mean I wouldn't be surprised if the OL had a decent outing against Clemson, but I don't foresee our OL dominating anyone... and I also wouldn't be surprised if they went out there and got pushed around a good bit as well. Now, if you're talking strictly DL then yes we are very capable of dominating the trenches on that side of the ball.
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An outlier? So, you're saying that our OL hasn't played average to below average on a semi regular basis this year? We haven't run blocked very well all year and our pass protection has been decent at times, but very inconsistent. I mean I wouldn't be surprised if the OL had a decent outing against Clemson, but I don't foresee our OL dominating anyone... and I also wouldn't be surprised if they went out there and got pushed around a good bit as well. Now, if you're talking strictly DL then yes we are very capable of dominating the trenches on that side of the ball.
I just don't think we can take much from the wofford game. I certainly don't think the o line has been a bright spot at any point this year but we can absolutely push clemson around if we have good effort.
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An outlier? So, you're saying that our OL hasn't played average to below average on a semi regular basis this year? We haven't run blocked very well all year and our pass protection has been decent at times, but very inconsistent. I mean I wouldn't be surprised if the OL had a decent outing against Clemson, but I don't foresee our OL dominating anyone... and I also wouldn't be surprised if they went out there and got pushed around a good bit as well. Now, if you're talking strictly DL then yes we are very capable of dominating the trenches on that side of the ball.
and yes agreed the d line can dominate if we come to play.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:25 PM   #64
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We will dominate both sides of the ball.If we can have our kickoffs start Clemsuck on the 25, our special teams will run wild.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:30 PM   #65
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We will dominate both sides of the ball.If we can have our kickoffs start Clemsuck on the 25, our special teams will run wild.
Believe it or not, Clemson has been really bad on kickoff returns this year. It is surprising with all of the speed they have, but they really haven't been that impressive on returns. They are averaging about 20 yards per return which puts them right around the 20-25 yard line on average.

Put it this way, they are averaging about the same number of yards per return that we are...... which is not good.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:33 PM   #66
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I just don't think we can take much from the wofford game. I certainly don't think the o line has been a bright spot at any point this year but we can absolutely push clemson around if we have good effort.
I honestly don't know much about Clemson's DL, but I hope you are right!
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:36 PM   #67
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I honestly don't know much about Clemson's DL, but I hope you are right!
The only thing I know about Clemson's d-line is that they have a young guy at DE named Beasley that has done pretty well. He has 8.5 sacks which is about where Clowney stands (9). But the thing about him is that he is only about 225 lbs playing DE.

So I am not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing against our O-line. Seems like Wofford had success by being smaller and quicker.
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Believe it or not, Clemson has been really bad on kickoff returns this year. It is surprising with all of the speed they have, but they really haven't been that impressive on returns. They are averaging about 20 yards per return which puts them right around the 20-25 yard line on average.
clemson has a lot of weaknesses that will be exposed this week. Winning masks errors and they haven't lost in a while. That could be trouble for them. When I watch them play I see poor tackling, poor special teams coverage, turnovers etc. When you win every week the urgency isn't there as much to get things dialed in.
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I honestly don't know much about Clemson's DL, but I hope you are right!
they have to bring extra guys to get pressure. Not a good sign when your pass coverage is already horrible.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:43 PM   #70
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After going to and watching the Clemson vs NC state, what I gathered from the game is that our Secondary and Special Teams coverage are horrible and need a major improvement come this Saturday.

Towards the end of the game, some fellow Clemson fans and myself agreed that when it comes to Special Teams coverage that if we don't fix what's wrong that Ace Sanders is going to shove our mistakes down our throats every time he get's the ball.

I'll be the first to say I am confident that we have what it takes to win the game, however we also can easily lose it as well. I am just glad that we will be home at Death Valley for this game.
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After going to and watching the Clemson vs NC state, what I gathered from the game is that our Secondary and Special Teams coverage are horrible and need a major improvement come this Saturday.
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If Breeland doesn't play (doubtful), is that a big impact? Or is he just one of a line of guys that were struggling in the secondary to the point that it really doesn't matter who is back there?

I know he was also one of the main special teams guys.
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After going to and watching the Clemson vs NC state, what I gathered from the game is that our Secondary and Special Teams coverage are horrible and need a major improvement come this Saturday.

Towards the end of the game, some fellow Clemson fans and myself agreed that when it comes to Special Teams coverage that if we don't fix what's wrong that Ace Sanders is going to shove our mistakes down our throats every time he get's the ball.

I'll be the first to say I am confident that we have what it takes to win the game, however we also can easily lose it as well. I am just glad that we will be home at Death Valley for this game.
classy post and a fair assessment
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If Breeland doesn't play (doubtful), is that a big impact? Or is he just one of a line of guys that were struggling in the secondary to the point that it really doesn't matter who is back there?

I know he was also one of the main special teams guys.
From what I watched during that game at least, Breeland struggled with the rest of them. I remember watching him get out played at one point which gave NC State a TD. At this point I feel that it doesn't matter who is in the secondary.
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Both are over confident, this thread is stupid.
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Bottom line is that our defense better come to play.
If you think defense is the problem, you ain't watched a single game.
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If you think defense is the problem, you ain't watched a single game.
Never said our defense was the problem. Not even remotely what I said. I was giving Clemson's offense credit which some SC have a different opinion on. I think Clemson's offense is legit. And when you are playing a legit offense, your defense better come to play. Correct???
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about the dumbest thing I've seen here in a while. Really why even post something that stupid?

You're right it shoudn't have been posted because it goes without saying.
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Id be more than happy to eat my words come Sunday. I honestly think Clemson will take us to the woodshed. Might get ugly in the 4th. When Spurrier starts saying nice things about Dabo the week before thats not a good thing. This team doesn't focus for road games, Conner is not 100%. Clowney isnt 100%. Ill be there cheering my lungs out but i have to say im not confident this year at all.

I really can't quite figure out why we are so worried. True Clempson O has been on a roll lately. But our D has not played poorly with the possible exception of the UT game. Our D has been good this year. We will get our shots in. And the Clempson D has been pathetic almost all year. More pathetic than our O. It will be a cold night and that plays in the hands of the D. Not predicting that we will kill them or anything like that. But I do believe we should win if we play our game. We are a more complete team.
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Let Clemson be over confident. If we play mistake free we will win.
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Their defense is awful.. GOD AWFUL.

Funny b/c they paid for that "top coordinator" and all those big time recruits.

We will be able to move the ball vs them like we did Arky, and our defense will be the best they've seen all season (FSU is not as good as we, espcially after losing Jenkins)


JUST DO NOT MAKE MISTAKES CONNOR. and we will crush them.
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