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Old 11-18-2012, 09:48 PM   #21
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Default Re: Our QB play will determine outcome..

Even when Connor does get good protection, often times he still seems hesitant and will bail out of the pocket prematurely.
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So what do you guys think happened against Wofford? Again, Connor did just fine against UT and Ark which were the two weeks previous. Even Spurrier said that Connor had made solid improvements and was doing exactly what was asked of him. No, he didn't play like Peyton Manning, but the Connor that played against UT and Ark wins us the game 90% of the time.

So what happened against Wofford? Do you guys have any idea? I know the O-line didn't play great, but it hasn't played great all year. He just seemed to really regress. Is there something I am missing? His foot was bothering him against UT and Arkansas.

I am just looking for some hope that he will play against Clemson the way he played for the past few weeks previous to Wofford. I don't think he has to play great, just get rid of the ball.

No flames against Connor please. I completely trust HBC to know who is the best option and Connor has done just fine. I am just wondering what happened to him against Wofford.

And he was 16 of 20, so maybe I am being too hard on him? Was his performance better than I am giving him credit for? He just seemed to play really bad overall.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:28 PM   #23
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Wofford had smaller quick guys that looked a lot like Vandy attacking our line. I think we should have just lined up in the I and pounded them similar to what we did in the second half against Ky. And to be honest, Shaw had a TD when he underthrew for the int. and Ace had Justice wide open and missed him which would have put us up 21 -0. It might have been a completely different game then. Its the difference between 24-7 and 38-7.
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^Justice wasn't wide open on that play. There were a couple defenders in coverage right underneath him. Ace is not a QB and he would have had to throw a perfect pass to squeeze that ball in there. He did the safe thing by throwing it where the defense could not make a play.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:46 PM   #25
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Since it applies to this thread, just read that Clemson's only new injury going into this game is cornerback Brashaud Breeland. Supposedly, at least according to one Clemson guy on Twitter, he is their best cover guy. Dabo called him doubtful for Saturday.

I wonder how big of an impact this will be? We all know they are bad, but does anyone follow Clemson closely enough to know if losing Breeland would be much of an impact?
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Even when Connor does get good protection, often times he still seems hesitant and will bail out of the pocket prematurely.
If Connor runs the zone read well, we will rack up yards. I think since his foot has been hurt, he has been hesitant to run the ball with authority. If he runs the ball well, we will chew up yards and clock. And keep the ball away from Clempson. I think this is the key. Plus hitting tight ends on the drag routes. We have an advantage on the tigger LBs. We should be able to exploit it.
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Since it applies to this thread, just read that Clemson's only new injury going into this game is cornerback Brashaud Breeland. Supposedly, at least according to one Clemson guy on Twitter, he is their best cover guy. Dabo called him doubtful for Saturday.

I wonder how big of an impact this will be? We all know they are bad, but does anyone follow Clemson closely enough to know if losing Breeland would be much of an impact?
I don't think it matters. Their pass coverage is just plain terrible. If connor can throw to the guys wearing the right jerseys he should have a very good day. Against state yesterday there were HUGE holes in their coverage. They are ok against the run until they wear down in the 2nd half due to being on the field too much.. They can't get pressure or stop the run with their front 4 so they pretty much always bring corners or linebackers on a blitz which helps on run support some but leaves them badly exposed in pass coverage. If we can't play pitch and catch saturday we are not a good offensive team.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:13 PM   #28
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Connor owned Clemsuck last year and he will again.All the guy does is win, broken bones and all.I'm hearing Clowney may break the rock when he sacks boyd upon it.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:45 AM   #29
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I think there are three keys to our winning, quarterback play, play calling, and linebacker play. If Conner executes and throws and runs with confidence we can keep and move the ball. If we call more possession passes and use the tight ends, use some I and Hback, and use some play action with wheel routes and deep routes, we can wear down their defense. If our linebackers make solid tackles (Ellington is good), cover the short dropoffs, and lay the wood early in the game, we can keep deep coverage with our safeties and maybe get multiple picks. If any of those three keys fall through, we will struggle, and could get way behind.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:54 AM   #30
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Sitting here watching replay of SC Clemson game from last year.

All I have to say is that we need Shaw to be able to run. His foot is pissing me off. LOL.

He looks so damn quick watching him play when he is healthy. Man, he looks so different in this game than he has the last few weeks. I know he is one hell of a competitor, but his foot has to be bothering him bad.

He is bouncing around and absolutely shredding Clemson's defense when he gets a lane.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:03 AM   #31
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Sitting here watching replay of SC Clemson game from last year.

All I have to say is that we need Shaw to be able to run. His foot is pissing me off. LOL.

He looks so damn quick watching him play when he is healthy. Man, he looks so different in this game than he has the last few weeks. I know he is one hell of a competitor, but his foot has to be bothering him bad.

He is bouncing around and absolutely shredding Clemson's defense when he gets a lane.
Was a huge strength that we take away when we force him to stay in the pocket. Definitely sucks he's not 100%.
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Yep, to beat Clemson you need to be able to throw the ball across the middle and deep
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I think there are three keys to our winning, quarterback play, play calling, and linebacker play. If Conner executes and throws and runs with confidence we can keep and move the ball. If we call more possession passes and use the tight ends, use some I and Hback, and use some play action with wheel routes and deep routes, we can wear down their defense. If our linebackers make solid tackles (Ellington is good), cover the short dropoffs, and lay the wood early in the game, we can keep deep coverage with our safeties and maybe get multiple picks. If any of those three keys fall through, we will struggle, and could get way behind.
I agree, but I think Connor is hurt worse than we know.....he looked like a different QB than at UT and Arky games. The TE have been getting a bunch of balls and he didn't throw even one to them against Wofford.....makes no sense.
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I believe the line to beat is 30.....if we can keep the taters under that, we'll win.
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I agree, but I think Connor is hurt worse than we know.....he looked like a different QB than at UT and Arky games. The TE have been getting a bunch of balls and he didn't throw even one to them against Wofford.....makes no sense.


Yep. Like I stated in the thread that I started about him, my first thought when I saw him was "oh no". I should add that he walked out of the x-ray room barefoot so I could see his limp really well.

I sure hope he can rest it and play his heart out against Clemson.
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It is hard to understand the TE's having a great game and then nothing the following week.
It really is not making sense that we seem to see a different offense weekly.
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sooooooooooooo, CofC, what you are saying is that if connor plays like he did in the tenn and arkie games, we will win. am i getting that right? because i think that is what you are saying, but just want to have you confirm this. i think you have been a little ambiguous about this point...
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I would say the secondary play is just as important as the QB play.
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Turnovers are the key.

If we don't have any...we win.

If we have them....winning may questionable.

We must protect the ball.....period!
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Last week, Clemson faced a guy that will be an NFL QB in Glennon....fortunately. It was good preparation going into this game.........I expect Clemson to blitz him a lot early to see how he handles the pressure and hits.....If Clemson is able to affect his accuracy early and force bad plays, we can really do some serious damage...If Shaw is hot and makes plays it will be a barn burner....

USC will not stop our offense. You may slow it down but like another poster said, your goal should be to hold us under 30. If we have around 40 offensive plays in the first half with points in the 20's we are going to eat you up in the second half.

USC needs to hold Clemson to under 20 points in the first half with less than 30 offensive snaps.
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