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Old 11-16-2012, 02:25 PM   #61
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We can only hope that this leads to a complete reoganization of the SCHSL.
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:32 PM   #62
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Why is this an issue all of a sudden? John McKissick held back honor roll students in middle and high school, with their parents consent, throughout his tenure. Just so they could be bigger, stronger, faster, whatever he needed them to be by the time they got to his varsity program. That is much, much worse in my opinion. Yet the man is heralded.

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Old 11-16-2012, 02:47 PM   #63
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Even though they are being allowed to play didnt the judge rule in favor of the scshl banning them? So why would people not expect the scshl to ban them on monday even if they win?
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Even though they are being allowed to play didnt the judge rule in favor of the scshl banning them? So why would people not expect the scshl to ban them on monday even if they win?
I think the judge said it's not up to the court to determine player eligibility but that due process to determine such is within his perview. That said, he disallowed the SCHSL from banning them until open meetings and full vetting of the situation can be heard.

I for one, think the SCHSL will have a mess bigger on their hands than they really care to defend if they throw GC under the bus Monday assuming they win. Bluffton would get an automatic advancement and Conway would be outside looking in having not gotten a shot at Bluffton. If I were in Bluffton's shoes- I think I'd almost rather pull a Spring Valley and not contest anything or accept the win when they know good and well they weren't the better team but rather a beneficiary of a flawed organization's subjective system of ruling.

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I don't have a dog in the fight, but it seems to me that if the school (no matter what school it is) broke the rules, then the school should be punished. Booting a school from the playoffs may seem harsh, but if it is not done, then the schools will end up doing as they please. I don't think fines are the answer either. With fines, the schools would just have boosters pony up the money to pay the fines.

As far as I am concerned, if Lower Richland got booted out for an eligibility violation, then Byrnes and Goose Creek should be also. I am sure my opinion is not going to be popular with the Byrnes or Goose Creek fans on here.
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I think most of us are more ticked off at the inconsistency that is the SCHSL and the application of it's rulings.
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Latest news, from the News and Courier:

It was 11 a.m. Sunday and Goose Creek coach Chuck Reedy sounded as if he had already had a long day.

He was breaking down film of this week’s Division II-AAAA playoff opponent Northwestern while preparing for today’s appeal in front of the High School League’s executive committee. The Gators must win their appeal to remain in the playoffs.




“Since last Monday, it’s been a roller- coaster ride of highs and lows,” Reedy said. “It’s been an emotional week and emotions burn a lot of energy. It’s taken its toll on everybody.”

Last week, High School League commissioner Jerome Singleton ruled the Gators used an ineligible player and banned the Gators from the playoffs. The following day, the executive committee upheld his decision in a closed session that violated the Freedom of Information Act.

The Gators took their case to court on Friday, and Circuit Judge Roger Young granted a temporary restraining order that allowed the school to play Friday night’s game against Bluffton, a 35-25 Gators victory. Young also ruled the executive committee must convene in open session today to reconsider the eligibility requirements based on its rules. Any decision must be explained in writing.

The Goose Creek football player declared ineligible by the High School League is a foster child who has special needs. He was homeless at times and had been in and out of facilities. He attended six schools before finally ending up at Goose Creek.

School officials reported the violation when a transcript showed he had been credited with high school classes four years ago at Woodmont High School, located near Greenville.

The day after the executive committee upheld Singleton’s decision, Goose Creek officials discovered the student wasn’t at Woodmont High his freshman year in 2008. He was actually incarcerated at a facility called Generations Home in Simpsonville, and was not allowed to leave the premises. Goose Creek officials say he never stepped foot on the Woodmont campus. The classes credited to Woodmont were actually taken at the Generations Home.

“I think Monday’s hearing will boil down to whether the year this young man spent in a group home for children with behavioral issues should be counted toward his eligibility limitation,” said Harrell, whose firm is handling the case for free. “Under the league’s constitution, a student is eligible to participate for four years from the time he first enrolled in the ninth grade in a member school. However, ‘enrollment’ is defined as ‘actual matriculation (complete registration) and physical attendance in classes for one day’. Based on what we’ve learned, this young man never physically attended a league member high school during the year in question because he was in a home-bound program.

“I expect that we’ll get a fair hearing,” Harrell said. “Most of the committee members are educators who obviously have a passion for kids. In fairness to the league commissioner and the full committee, their decisions last week were based on the information they had in front of them. We now know there was more to the story than what they knew at that time.”

The school could go back to court again if its appeal is rejected.

“Obviously, we would have to evaluate that with our attorneys,” Reedy said. “But there comes a point when you say you’ve done everything you could and exhausted every option. We’re seeking justice.”

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Old 11-19-2012, 05:28 PM   #68
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Freakin A this is ridiculous. Make a decision and stick with it.
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:50 PM   #69
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14-0 denied. Goose Creek out of playoffs again. Until they get another county judge on the case....
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:52 PM   #70
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What a mess....and from what I understand the kid didnt really play much or at all....Really screwed up mess...
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Just saw the coaches call "everybody up" at their practice and everyone got a knee. I knew that wasn't for delivery of good news. Lots of tears in parking lot afterward. At least they got one more game in and everyone was knowing of the potential circumstances. I'm sure it still sucks just as bad though.
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I too am glad it's over, even though I still feel the punishment did not fit the crime, nor am I happy with the inconsistency within the SCHSL. I simply hope that if they pursue it further it's more to bring about MUCH needed and overdue reorganization of the SCHSL.
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14-0 denied. Goose Creek out of playoffs again. Until they get another county judge on the case....
I don't think there was any doubt that today's vote was going to be a 'revenge' vote.
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Goose Creek is the people's champ. Someone needs to burn the SCHSL to the ground and start from scratch.
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....Should have been done years ago....Too many special intrest being satified in that crowd...
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and it seems to me that their is someone or some people that have an axe to grind with Goose Creek....It is really weird how this thing is panning out...
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The Upstate folks run the SCHSL. They know the Lowcountry is where the talents at so they have to hold us down anyway they can. Damn Carolina Yankees.
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..Yep...and there is another influence I will not mention that has more say than they should.....I mean the kid didnt do anything and Goose Creek didnt do anything wrong...Goose Creek didnt gain a dang thing in giving this kid a jersey...Absolutely NOTHING...
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If every HS in any state was targeted they would all be in trouble. Do you know how much HS kids get away with just because they play Football?
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I feel absolutely terrible for the kids on the Goose Creek team but at the same time I can not fault the SCHSL for their ruling. The rules are the rules and they have to be enforced.
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