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Old 11-20-2012, 05:05 PM   #61
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:09 PM   #62
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Spurrier got fired from Washington...what is your point?
I never said he wasn't a good Coach. I was just saying it is never brought up the fact the he was fired. I've liked him ever since the Raider day's. He is interested in the TN job though, that is for sure.
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:12 PM   #63
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The one thing I learned from Spurrier's first years here is that a head coach is only as good as his assistants. Spurrier was only out of the college game for a few years and had a lot of catching up to do on hiring and firing coaches which showed with 6 and 7 win seasons. Gruden has been out of the college game for a long time and has a lot to learn in this matter. He will be in control of the offense just like Spurrier but as we learned from coach Hunt that the greatest offensive minds aren't crap without the right assistants.

Dooley has done one thing at Tennessee and that's cleaned up Fulmer and Kiffin's mess and built a foundation for the next coach but Tennessee still has a ways to go.
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6:28 mark...from this Spring.

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I have felt this way about Gruden for years....Do people forget that he got fired from Tampa??
That is the funny thing...

Go ask a Bucs fan what they think about Gruden.

Hell, the players in his own locker room didn't respect him by the time his coaching tenure came to an end there.
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I get your point, but the situations aren't comparable. Spurrier was already a proven college coach. Gruden isn't.
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Chargers are apparently going to go after Gruden after their terrible year and Gruden and their GM are best friends. If Fisher got 7 mil a year with the Rams with no super bowl, Gruden will get around there. There is no way it's the same money as UT can offer as your post indicates, UT cannot pay him remotely close to that. I doubt he wants to deal with the year long process of recruiting. The chargers are decent and not a project like UT. Plus the season has about 6 weeks left before Turner is fired and Gruden is forced a decision . I don't know if the Vols can wait that long in order to save this year's recruiting class.


Less work more money? No, it's probably more work less money dealing with boosters, recruiting, spring practice and the season.
I know about The Chargers' offer. He gets asked every year. Maybe he decides to step down to college. Who knows.
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I don't think he'll take a Collegiate HC gig because he would be able to air his "Gruden's Grinders"
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Read what I am saying. I am commenting on the people that don't give credit to Jon Gruden for winning a Super Bowl because he did it with "Tony Dungy's players".

My rebuttle to those people is that he won that Super Bowl against a team full of "HIS PLAYERS" one year after he left Oakland they were in the Super bowl.

So you can't say one without including the other.

The fact of the matter is he is a SUPER BOWL winning coach and has also taken teams to the playoffs 5 times and the Conference title games twice.

He is a home run hire.
Laugh. My. Ass. Off.


WHAT DOES HIS NFL CAREER HAVE TO DO WITH COLLEGE?

ANSWER: JACK #$#%

He is a desperate PR hire.. come the h on man
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PLEASE let this happen for UT...

God I want Gruden to be there... so much fail waiting to happen.



Love how Ericvol is "all in" for this hire


LMAO would love a coach with such little NCAA HC exp to be at UT
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And can't wait for them to still not be better than USC/Ugay/Fla in 5 years.

God this is perfect, just like the Lane Kiffin fiasco. UT fans get all pumped up and overexcited for a PR hire, only look at his NFL experience (which, if you actually look, isn't that great... inherited a great team), and the fact he is on espn.
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Read what I am saying. I am commenting on the people that don't give credit to Jon Gruden for winning a Super Bowl because he did it with "Tony Dungy's players".

My rebuttle to those people is that he won that Super Bowl against a team full of "HIS PLAYERS" one year after he left Oakland they were in the Super bowl.

So you can't say one without including the other.

The fact of the matter is he is a SUPER BOWL winning coach and has also taken teams to the playoffs 5 times and the Conference title games twice.

He is a home run hire.
You're a little on edge man. Gruden will be an interesting coach and situation, but I am glad it's not at USC frankly.

This is a gamble that could either pay off nicely or you're going to end up with a program that recruits well but can't do anything with it.
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And can't wait for them to still not be better than USC/Ugay/Fla in 5 years.

God this is perfect, just like the Lane Kiffin fiasco. UT fans get all pumped up and overexcited for a PR hire, only look at his NFL experience (which, if you actually look, isn't that great... inherited a great team), and the fact he is on espn.
Dude has a Super Bowl ring. Does that mean he will do well in college? Not necessarily, but it is a good indicator that he may know how to coach a little bit.
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I'd rather him go outside of the SEC but I'm in favor of anything that'll get his corny ass out of the booth on Monday nights, I can't stand having to listen to him on MNF
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There is not a more overrated coach in any sport. Somehow he made himself a brand which he has cashed in on.
Yes, there is and he coaches a SC team in a weak conference and wears uringe.

Some NFL teams like Philly or Dallas will come after Gruden too. But, his MNF gig is very sweet with little pressure and less time commitment.
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Huge News out of Tennessee Today.

Our Academic side is donating 18 Million dollars to our Athletic Department over 3 years.
That's kind of embarrassing for a college especially since USC's athletic dept. donated $10 million to the academic side. Pretty much shows that the Viles are in bad financial shape on in the AD and view athletics as more important than academics.
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He will coach again but not in college football.
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Dude has a Super Bowl ring. Does that mean he will do well in college? Not necessarily, but it is a good indicator that he may know how to coach a little bit.
So? A guy I know has a high school championship ring. Doesn't mean he'll make a good COLLEGE coach.
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My mom used to live right outside Tampa so we used to watch them play a lot, and I was never impressed with Gruden. The only thing that kept them from winning a super bowl prior to him was Dungy's fixation on giving minority QBs a shot even if they weren't very good. The only change that Gruden made was to bring in an established QB.
The rumors I got from his firing was that he was an arrogant ass hole and that the players hated him. The only worry I have about him coming to UT is that he will hire excellent ex-NFL assistants. And we've seen from UK with Rich Brooks and from Monte Kiffin how this works.
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My mom used to live right outside Tampa so we used to watch them play a lot, and I was never impressed with Gruden. The only thing that kept them from winning a super bowl prior to him was Dungy's fixation on giving minority QBs a shot even if they weren't very good. The only change that Gruden made was to bring in an established QB.
The rumors I got from his firing was that he was an arrogant ass hole and that the players hated him. The only worry I have about him coming to UT is that he will hire excellent ex-NFL assistants. And we've seen from UK with Rich Brooks and from Monte Kiffin how this works.
Seems the fixation is yours. Dungy only had 1 "minority" qb in his 6 years who started a total of 21 games. He was not the starting qb in Dungy's final season...so yeah
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