Gruden offered by Arkansas - Page 5

StretfordEnd · 11-21-2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 803scdantes

So? A guy I know has a high school championship ring. Doesn't mean he'll make a good COLLEGE coach.

Did you really just compare a Super Bowl ring to a state championship? The difference in your guy and Gruden is Gruden won at the highest level. Of course, hus SB Ring doesn't mean he would win in college, but recruits would give UT more consideration as they are going to listen to a guy with that kind of jewelry. Recruits could care less if you have a high school ring.

Emery · 11-21-2012, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SwimCock

Yes, there is and he coaches a SC team in a weak conference and wears uringe.

Some NFL teams like Philly or Dallas will come after Gruden too. But, his MNF gig is very sweet with little pressure and less time commitment.

I don't think anyone thinks Dabo is real football coach. Everyone, including Clemson deep down, know he's a good recruiter but if Morris was gone and he was in control of the offense things might not be going too great.

Cockyhard · 11-21-2012, 09:57 AM

Dooley got screwed

Hog · 11-21-2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ericvol2096

Listen to my words.

I promise all of you that this is not a TN/ARK battle.

It is a TN/NFL job opportunity battle.

Arkansas is not an option.

How do you know and nobody else does? Not being a smartass........jus askin

RoyalAir · 11-21-2012, 11:23 AM

These Vols fans are funny. Salivating over a guy like Gruden, who is going to build a "recruiting powerhouse" at UTK, and is going to dominate the conference.

I'll believe it when I see it. He's a name and a brand, sure. But as a coach, he left a HELL of a lot to be desired. His Tampa teams were absolute quagmires at QB. His system left many a player totally rattled, and unable to compete. The defense (Monte Kiffin, who y'all already tried) was what made those TB teams any good. When Gruden was running the show (after he had Rich McKay forced out of the GM chair), those Bucs teams were average.

To top it all off, that your university is donating money to the athletic department in such large quantities is positively shameful. The AD should exist to enrich and endow the university, not the other way around.

Hire Gruden. But I don't think it's going to be the home-run success that UTK fans are envisioning.

LegalCock · 11-21-2012, 11:55 AM

Well it would be a coup of a hire, but that doesn't mean it would translate into on the field success.

I Bleed Garnet · 11-21-2012, 12:03 PM

Cutcliffe just signed an extension through 2019

LegalCock · 11-21-2012, 12:07 PM

He's too old now anyway, but I wonder what his buyout is for leaving, if anything. Not like duke is in a real strong negotiating position.

Ericvol2096 · 11-21-2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by I Bleed Garnet

Cutcliffe just signed an extension through 2019

Cutcliffe is not even in the disussion.

Ericvol2096 · 11-21-2012, 01:30 PM

That smell I am getting a whiff of in this thread...yup.

Fear.

LOL, I honestly don't expect us to be able to in the end make this hire happen, but it is fun to speculate on.

Cock Kool-Aid · 11-21-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ericvol2096

That smell I am getting a whiff of in this thread...yup.

Fear.

LOL, I honestly don't expect us to be able to in the end make this hire happen, but it is fun to speculate on.

Really bc yesterday you were all but saying it was a 100% done deal...

I Bleed Garnet · 11-21-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ericvol2096

Cutcliffe is not even in the disussion.

Yea I know someone asked somewhere else what happened to him.

gamecockjay · 11-21-2012, 02:07 PM

Gruden is there for the taking but it is the AD that MAY want someone else. He is getting alot of pressure from boosters to make the gruden hire. He wants a proven college coach and knows that chucky is a high risk high reward hire. If he gets pushed to hard on this he will walk.. Heard it from 2 people in the FSU ranks where Hart was at previously and the same thing just posted on Mr.Sec. I dont know who Hart may want but if it is anyone other than chucky the vol fans are going to run him out of town faster than kiffykins bolted. I said previously he has mismanaged this and if chucky was who he wanted it should have been a done deal the moment Dooley was let go. There was nothing to stop him from talking to grudens agent or a 3rd party. Something else is going on or it would be a fact already. It will probably still happen but something is holding it up???

bcgibson75 · 11-21-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ericvol2096

That smell I am getting a whiff of in this thread...yup.

Fear.

LOL, I honestly don't expect us to be able to in the end make this hire happen, but it is fun to speculate on.

Us fear the Vols...UcheaT?/? Not in a number of years. The only names that may get some angst from USC fans are Petrino (not going to happen) & Saban (never going to happen).

Other than that, you can bring in whomever you want in Rocky Top...but you're still looking up to USC, Georgia & Florida in the SEC East.

Good luck with Vandy in the battle for 4th place in the East!

Ericvol2096 · 11-21-2012, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cock Kool-Aid

Really bc yesterday you were all but saying it was a 100% done deal...

That is what I am hearing from reliable people...but everytime I remove myself from the chatter and just think logically I can't believe it will actually happen.

I hope the people saying it is are right!

Ericvol2096 · 11-21-2012, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gamecockjay

Gruden is there for the taking but it is the AD that MAY want someone else. He is getting alot of pressure from boosters to make the gruden hire. He wants a proven college coach and knows that chucky is a high risk high reward hire. If he gets pushed to hard on this he will walk.. Heard it from 2 people in the FSU ranks where Hart was at previously and the same thing just posted on Mr.Sec. I dont know who Hart may want but if it is anyone other than chucky the vol fans are going to run him out of town faster than kiffykins bolted. I said previously he has mismanaged this and if chucky was who he wanted it should have been a done deal the moment Dooley was let go. There was nothing to stop him from talking to grudens agent or a 3rd party. Something else is going on or it would be a fact already. It will probably still happen but something is holding it up???

I am wondering if this Gruden talk is just smoke that Hart is allowing to be up so he can do his search and not have anyone trace what he really is doing.

Our VQ reporter (very reliable usually) said that while the Gruden interest/pursuit is real that our AD has also has had discussions with Jimbo Fisher, Bob Stoops and Charlie Strong and that they are all interested.

Ericvol2096 · 11-21-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bcgibson75

Us fear the Vols...UcheaT?/? Not in a number of years. The only names that may get some angst from USC fans are Petrino (not going to happen) & Saban (never going to happen).

Other than that, you can bring in whomever you want in Rocky Top...but you're still looking up to USC, Georgia & Florida in the SEC East.

Good luck with Vandy in the battle for 4th place in the East!

I have to admit that as of this point you all have certainly passed us.

But depending on who we hire and who you replace Spurrier with, things could be very different in a few years.

SpecOps Cock · 11-21-2012, 02:22 PM

I still cant see Franklin going to UT. Just doesnt seem like he would do that but who knows money talks !!!

mick66 · 11-21-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ericvol2096

I am wondering if this Gruden talk is just smoke that Hart is allowing to be up so he can do his search and not have anyone trace what he really is doing.

Our VQ reporter (very reliable usually) said that while the Gruden interest/pursuit is real that our AD has also has had discussions with Jimbo Fisher, Bob Stoops and Charlie Strong and that they are all interested.

I think that Gruden would make a huge splash in getting in top recruits. Now, would he be able to put together a top notch staff, resist the urge to bolt to the NFL or back to the booth, and put up with boosters and all that goes with being a college coach?
As for those who say he wasn't really that good of an NFL coach, Saban and Spurrier didn't exactly set the world on fire in the pros and they've done just fine.

Ericvol2096 · 11-21-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SpecOps Cock

I still cant see Franklin going to UT. Just doesnt seem like he would do that but who knows money talks !!!

LOL why wouldn't he? It is a better program in every fashion except academically.

His agent has already been working the back channels trying to express interest in TN.

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Cockyhard Blue Chip Male Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Greenville Posts: 560 CockyCash: 200	Re: Gruden offered by Arkansas Dooley got screwed __________________ Is football season here yet???

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RoyalAir 4-Star Male Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Chattanooga Posts: 265 CockyCash: 400	Re: Gruden offered by Arkansas These Vols fans are funny. Salivating over a guy like Gruden, who is going to build a "recruiting powerhouse" at UTK, and is going to dominate the conference. I'll believe it when I see it. He's a name and a brand, sure. But as a coach, he left a HELL of a lot to be desired. His Tampa teams were absolute quagmires at QB. His system left many a player totally rattled, and unable to compete. The defense (Monte Kiffin, who y'all already tried) was what made those TB teams any good. When Gruden was running the show (after he had Rich McKay forced out of the GM chair), those Bucs teams were average. To top it all off, that your university is donating money to the athletic department in such large quantities is positively shameful. The AD should exist to enrich and endow the university, not the other way around. Hire Gruden. But I don't think it's going to be the home-run success that UTK fans are envisioning.

11-21-2012, 11:55 AM	#86
LegalCock 1st Team All-American Male Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NC Posts: 11,589 CockyCash: 1500	Re: Gruden offered by Arkansas Well it would be a coup of a hire, but that doesn't mean it would translate into on the field success.

11-21-2012, 12:03 PM	#87
I Bleed Garnet Heisman Candidate Male Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 17,540 CockyCash: 524485398	Re: Gruden offered by Arkansas Cutcliffe just signed an extension through 2019 __________________ #LukeForMod 2010 Football SEC East Champs 2009 Basketball SEC East Co-Champs "9 out of 10 schools cheat, and the 10th is in last place"-Jerry Tarkanian

11-21-2012, 12:07 PM	#88
LegalCock 1st Team All-American Male Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NC Posts: 11,589 CockyCash: 1500	Re: Gruden offered by Arkansas He's too old now anyway, but I wonder what his buyout is for leaving, if anything. Not like duke is in a real strong negotiating position.

11-21-2012, 01:30 PM	#90
Ericvol2096 1st Team All-SEC Male Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 4,272 CockyCash: 500	Re: Gruden offered by Arkansas That smell I am getting a whiff of in this thread...yup. Fear. LOL, I honestly don't expect us to be able to in the end make this hire happen, but it is fun to speculate on. __________________ Master Bedroom: If UT goes 7-1 in the SEC next year I will get a tattoo of Dabo on my butt!

11-21-2012, 02:07 PM	#93
gamecockjay Two Deep Male Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,000 CockyCash: 200	Re: Gruden offered by Arkansas Gruden is there for the taking but it is the AD that MAY want someone else. He is getting alot of pressure from boosters to make the gruden hire. He wants a proven college coach and knows that chucky is a high risk high reward hire. If he gets pushed to hard on this he will walk.. Heard it from 2 people in the FSU ranks where Hart was at previously and the same thing just posted on Mr.Sec. I dont know who Hart may want but if it is anyone other than chucky the vol fans are going to run him out of town faster than kiffykins bolted. I said previously he has mismanaged this and if chucky was who he wanted it should have been a done deal the moment Dooley was let go. There was nothing to stop him from talking to grudens agent or a 3rd party. Something else is going on or it would be a fact already. It will probably still happen but something is holding it up??? __________________ "The only people who use mustard base BBQ sauce are yankees and people who were not raised properly" J.A. Weatherly

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SpecOps Cock Banned Male Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: The Bluff Posts: 1,448 CockyCash: 200	Re: Gruden offered by Arkansas I still cant see Franklin going to UT. Just doesnt seem like he would do that but who knows money talks !!!

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