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Old 11-25-2012, 08:29 PM   #41
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They needed an upgrade at coach if they're gonna be able to compete in the SEC. ;-)
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:32 PM   #42
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Yea but Duke doesn't care about football
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:19 PM   #43
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His record was 40-35 overall and 22-26 in the ACC. Wonder why it took them so long to get rid of him. The NC State people want in the SEC in a bad way. They got themselves an SEC basketball coach and you see what happens.
A. He lasted longer than he would have otherwise because he beat the Tarheels like a drum. B. Not sure what NCSU people you're talking to but based on what I read and hear from them and in their media, probably 70% of them would never think of leaving the hoops games with UNC, Duke and Wake behind even if they had to join the southern conference in football.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:43 PM   #44
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His mis management of the end of the game against UNC got a lot of fans ticked off. 40-35 over I think 6 years is not exactly getting it done. It had run it's course. It was time to move on. The 1 signature win that he seems to get every year wasn't going to save him this year.

Plus they got outplayed and out coached by Maryland and Virginia. They managed to win the Maryland game but got blown out by UVA if my memory serves.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:50 PM   #45
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He was on the hot seat to start the season.
And fans/alumni/boosters want out because the ACC caters to Duke and UNC
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:56 PM   #46
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A. He lasted longer than he would have otherwise because he beat the Tarheels like a drum. B. Not sure what NCSU people you're talking to but based on what I read and hear from them and in their media, probably 70% of them would never think of leaving the hoops games with UNC, Duke and Wake behind even if they had to join the southern conference in football.
I think its more divided 50-50 between staying in the ACC cause of basketball and leaving and joining the SEC because of football... its pretty divided and staying or leaving opinons seem to be based and split on those whom favor and want to focus basketball more or football more... honestly i think the could be solid in both given time and sec money
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The crazy lady AD says she wants NC State to be a "Alabama like" program. Sure lady.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:24 PM   #48
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The crazy lady AD says she wants NC State to be a "Alabama like" program. Sure lady.
Throw 3.5 million at Kirby Smart?
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:52 PM   #49
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Throw 3.5 million at Kirby Smart?
Maybe it's just me but I think he's overrated.
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TOB didn't recruit, many state fans wanted him out.
Agreed....recruiting in NC isn't like recruiting at Boston College.

And the UVA loss was the nail in the coffin.
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And maybe this is where Petrino lands. I think NCSU is in a position to take a gamble.
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The crazy lady AD says she wants NC State to be a "Alabama like" program. Sure lady.
So what should she say? She wants to shoot for being a "Marshall like" program?
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I know NCST had high expectations when the season started, but how good do they think they can be? They don't recruit very well, they don't have a great stadium, they don't have a lot of footbal tradition. The can do better in the ACC but their ceiling is pretty limited.

Maybe they should shoot for being the Clemson of football, great until it matters.

Isn't this the same lady who ran off Gary Williams? How has that turned out?
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I know NCST had high expectations when the season started, but how good do they think they can be? They don't recruit very well, they don't have a great stadium, they don't have a lot of footbal tradition. The can do better in the ACC but their ceiling is pretty limited.
Not trying to be funny, but you pretty much just described Gamecock football prior to Holtz and Spurrier.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:32 AM   #55
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Not trying to be funny, but you pretty much just described Gamecock football prior to Holtz and Spurrier.
SC had a lot of football tradition, just not a lot of success.
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Not trying to be funny, but you pretty much just described Gamecock football prior to Holtz and Spurrier.

I partially agree.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:43 AM   #57
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I know NCST had high expectations when the season started, but how good do they think they can be? They don't recruit very well, they don't have a great stadium, they don't have a lot of footbal tradition. The can do better in the ACC but their ceiling is pretty limited.

Maybe they should shoot for being the Clemson of football, great until it matters.

Isn't this the same lady who ran off Gary Williams? How has that turned out?
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Not trying to be funny, but you pretty much just described Gamecock football prior to Holtz and Spurrier.
i think usc90grad is right in the sense they remind me alot of USC a few years ago before holtz got here... they actually do have pretty solid facilities that can improve if they were successful. They have probably the 4th best football fan base in the ACC behind FSU, Clem, and VT. If they could get a coach that could energize their fan base and get some solid recruits (something TOB didnt do) i think they could be a consistent top 25 team ... given a few years in the SEC (time to recruit and use the sec money) i think they would be a solid team.
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NC has been fertile recruiting ground for us. If they get someone who can recruit, especially if the rumors of them joining the SEC are true, would that shut us out?
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No, but I don't think we should be lobbying for them to get into the league or anything. We should be fine with being the SEC team for the Carolinas. all those Duke and UNC sidewalk basketball fans can pull for Carolina in football too. Like lots of people in SC pull for the Tarheels or Blue Devils in hoops. Honestly, UF and UGA and even UT seem to do more damage than we do in NC most years. At least at the high end. I saw the humphries kid knocking seminoles on their ass saturday.
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