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Old 11-26-2012, 01:13 PM   #1
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The rules for the BCS automatic qualifying state that if the conference champion is not in the top 16, then a non-AQ team would take their spot. Georgia Tech could beat Florida State and Wisconsin could beat Nebraska, causing both the ACC and Big 10 to lose its representatives. This would be coupled with the likelihood that the Big East champion is also below the top 16 threshold. Imagine all of the quality games we could get in the BCS games like Kent St. vs Northern Illinois in the Orange Bowl--what a sham.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:17 PM   #2
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The rules for the BCS automatic qualifying state that if the conference champion is not in the top 16, then a non-AQ team would take their spot. Georgia Tech could beat Florida State and Wisconsin could beat Nebraska, causing both the ACC and Big 10 to lose its representatives. This would be coupled with the likelihood that the Big East champion is also below the top 16 threshold. Imagine all of the quality games we could get in the BCS games like Kent St. vs Northern Illinois in the Orange Bowl--what a sham.
I don't think that means that a team like GA Tech would not go to the BCS it just means that one of the no qualifying conferences schools will get a auto bid. So instead of a BCS bowl like the sugar bowl getting to chose who they want last year like Va Tech they will be stuck with a no qualifying team because they made it into the top 16.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:20 PM   #3
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BCS conferences still get an auto bid.
Kent State also will get one if they win the MAC, are in the top 16 and finish above a BCS conference champ.

It takes away an at Large bid.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:32 PM   #4
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Losing to Kentucky should automatically disqualify you from a BCS game.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:32 PM   #5
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The Suga Bowl and The Orange Bowl took a bath last year for their games....If there is an out of taking some of these teams they might end up with they will take the out...It is hard to belive that the Suga has put themselves in the position they have....Really crazy stuff these days..
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:45 PM   #6
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only one team from a non aq conference can get an automatic bid a year. even if there were 3 non aq teams ranked higher than 3 of the conference champs only one would get an automatic bid and the other two would have to hope for at large consideration.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:01 PM   #7
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Kent State has a very good shot at getting in. I think if Stanford beats UCLA again this weekend they would sneak up to 16. Or maybe it was Nebraska that needed to lose. I can't remember. But the Big East Champ will most certainly be behind them in the BCS.
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Florida is almost guaranteed to go Sugar, and would probably play either ORE, OK, or Kansas St. FSU/GT will go to the Orange versus Rutgers. All of the slots are set, just depends on the order of what bowl chooses what team. What really sucks, and it happened to us as well, is that the SEC runner up will get 3rd choice of their bowl.
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Kent State will not be a BCS bowl selection. They are not an automatic qualifying conference and no BCS bowl will choose them as an At Large.
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Kent State will not be a BCS bowl selection. They are not an automatic qualifying conference and no BCS bowl will choose them as an At Large.
have to agree, no money in it to pick Kent State.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:21 PM   #11
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:30 PM   #12
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Kent State will not be a BCS bowl selection. They are not an automatic qualifying conference and no BCS bowl will choose them as an At Large.
It's the Boise State rule. If they win the MAC this weekend and UCLA loses they could creep up to 16 and be automatically qualified. Remember Kent State lost to freaking Kentucky by 30. I hope to god this doesn't happen.

I would expect Northern Illinois to beat them in the MAC title game this weekend but they could pull it off. Boise State is still sitting at 18 or 19 so they need UCLA, Texas, and Kent State to lose and it would still be close for them to get to 16.
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Kent State will not be a BCS bowl selection. They are not an automatic qualifying conference and no BCS bowl will choose them as an At Large.
But if they move up one spot and finish above the Big east champ, they get an automatic bid.
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have to agree, no money in it to pick Kent State.
Please read. Since they would be in the top 16. And above a BCS automatic conference champ, they'd be in automatically. They'd have to be picked.
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I stand corrected, it could happen. Here is an article http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...ge-bowl-fiasco


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Automatic Qualification
1. The top two teams in the final BCS Standings shall play in the National Championship Game.
2. The champions of the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, and Southeastern conferences will have automatic berths in one of the participating bowls through the 2013 regular season.

3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:
  • A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
  • B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.
No more than one such team from Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, and the Western Athletic Conference shall earn an automatic berth in any year. (Note: a second team may be eligible for at-large eligibility as noted below.) If two or more teams from those conferences satisfy the provisions for an automatic berth, then the team with the highest finish in the final BCS Standings will receive the automatic berth, and the remaining team or teams will be considered for at-large selection if it meets the criteria.
4. Notre Dame will have an automatic berth if it is in the top eight of the final BCS Standings.
5. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 4, and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 3 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier, provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game.
6. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 5, and if no team qualifies under paragraph No. 5 and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 4 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game.
At-large Eligibility

If there are fewer than 10 automatic qualifiers, then the bowls will select at-large participants to fill the remaining berths. An at-large team is any Football Bowl Subdivision team that is bowl-eligible and meets the following requirements:
  • A. Has won at least nine regular-season games, and
  • B. Is among the top 14 teams in the final BCS Standings.
No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, unless two non-champions from the same conference are ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings.

If fewer than 10 teams are eligible for selection, then the Bowls can select as an at-large team any Football Bowl Subdivision team that is bowl-eligible, has won at least nine regular-season games and is among the top 18 teams in the final BCS Standings subject to the two-team limit noted above and also subject to the following:
  • 1) if any conference has two or more teams in the top 14, then two of those teams must be selected and
  • (2) from the teams ranked 15-18, a bowl can select only a team from a conference that has fewer than two teams in the top 14.
If expansion of the pool to 18 teams does not result in 10 teams eligible for selection, then the pool shall be expanded by blocks of 4 teams until 10 eligible teams are available subject to the two-team limit noted above and also subject to the following: (1) if any conference has two or more teams in the top 14, then two of those teams must be selected and (2) from the teams ranked 15 or lower, a bowl can select only a team from a conference that has fewer than two teams in the top 14.
Relative to the two preceding paragraphs, all teams ranked in the top 14, other than those from conferences which have already had two teams selected, must be included in the bowl selections.

Note: in order to participate in a BCS Bowl game, a team
  • (a) must be eligible for post-season play under the rules of the NCAA and, if it not an independent, under the rules of its conference and
  • (b) must not have imposed sanctions upon itself prohibiting participation in a post-season game for infractions of the rules of the NCAA or the rules of its conference.
Team Selection Procedures
The bowls will select their participants from two pools: (1) automatic qualifiers, all of which must be selected, and, (2) at-large teams, if fewer than 10 teams qualify automatically. The following sequence will be used when establishing pairings:
1. The top two teams in the final BCS Standings will be placed in the National Championship Game ("NCG").

2. Unless they qualify to play in the NCG, the champions of selected conferences are contractually committed to host selected games:
  • Atlantic Coast Conference-Orange Bowl
  • Big Ten Conference-Rose Bowl
  • Big 12 Conference-Fiesta Bowl
  • Pac-12 Conference-Rose Bowl
  • Southeastern Conference-Sugar Bowl
3. If a bowl loses a host team to the NCG, then such bowl shall select a replacement team from among the automatic-qualifying teams and the at-large teams before any other selections are made. If two bowls lose host teams to the NCG, each bowl will get a replacement pick before any other selections are made. In such case, the bowl losing the No. 1 team gets the first replacement pick, and the bowl losing the No. 2 team gets the second replacement pick. If the Rose Bowl loses both the Big Ten and Pac-12 champions to the NCG, it will receive two replacement picks.
(For the games of January 2011 through 2014, the first year the Rose Bowl loses a team to the NCG and a team from the non-AQ group is an automatic qualifier, that non-AQ team will play in the Rose Bowl.)

A bowl choosing a replacement team may not select any of the following:
  • A. A team in the NCG;
  • B. The host team for another BCS Bowl;
  • C. When two bowls lose host teams, then the bowl losing the number one team may not select a replacement team from the same conference as the number two team, unless the bowl losing the number two team consents.
4. After steps No. 1, 2 and 3 have been completed, any bowl with an unfilled slot shall select a team from the automatic qualifiers and/or at-large teams in the following order for the games played in 2007 through 2010:
  • A. The bowl played on the date nearest to the National Championship Game will pick first;
  • B. The bowl played on the date second-nearest to the National Championship Game will pick second;
  • C. The bowl hosting the game that is played in the time slot immediately after the Rose Bowl game will pick third.
The selection order noted in paragraphs A, B and C is as follows:
January 2013 games: Fiesta, Sugar, Orange
January 2014 games: Orange, Sugar, Fiesta
All teams earning automatic berths must be selected.

5. After completion of the selection process as described in Paragraph Nos. 1-4, the conferences and Notre Dame may, but are not required to, adjust the pairings taking into consideration the following:
  • A. whether the same team will be playing in the same bowl game for two consecutive years;
  • B. whether two teams that played against one another in the regular season will be paired against one another in a bowl game;
  • C. whether the same two teams will play against each other in a bowl game for two consecutive years; and
  • D. whether alternative pairings may have greater or lesser appeal to college football fans as measured by expected ticket sales for the bowls and by expected television interest, and the consequent financial impact on Fox and the bowls.
The pairings may not be altered by removing the Big Ten Champion or Pac-12 champion from the Rose Bowl.
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One thing that hasn't been said in that thread yet is that I would be mildly surprised if Kent State actually wins the MAC championship. I have family that attend a couple different MAC schools so I follow them pretty regularly, and NIU is quite honestly the better team. The betting line I've seen is NIU -5.

If NIU wins, I can't imagine them getting enough bump in the polls to get into the top 16. They would get close, maybe like 18, but nothing to grab the auto bid. Then the Orange Bowl can take the Big East champion and all will be "normal" again.
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