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Old 11-27-2012, 06:23 PM   #41
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As a Clemson fan my ideal situation would be this:

Clemson, Miami, GT, and FSU all join the Big 12. Gives the conference the Miami and Atlanta markets along with adding two quality teams in Clemson and FSU. These teams and WVU along with any 2 of the current members could make one division. A Big 12 with Texas, OU, FSU, Clemson, Okie State, K-State, TCU, & Miami would have the potential to rival the SEC.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:36 PM   #42
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As a Clemson fan my ideal situation would be this:

Clemson, Miami, GT, and FSU all join the Big 12. Gives the conference the Miami and Atlanta markets along with adding two quality teams in Clemson and FSU. These teams and WVU along with any 2 of the current members could make one division. A Big 12 with Texas, OU, FSU, Clemson, Okie State, K-State, TCU, & Miami would have the potential to rival the SEC.
Agreed. If you could pull that off, it would be a heckuva conference.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:39 PM   #43
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Agreed. If you could pull that off, it would be a heckuva conference.
It won't happen though. Haha wishful thinking and it makes more sense than any of this other nonsense flying around.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:40 PM   #44
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As a Clemson fan my ideal situation would be this:

Clemson, Miami, GT, and FSU all join the Big 12. Gives the conference the Miami and Atlanta markets along with adding two quality teams in Clemson and FSU. These teams and WVU along with any 2 of the current members could make one division. A Big 12 with Texas, OU, FSU, Clemson, Okie State, K-State, TCU, & Miami would have the potential to rival the SEC.
I would not be surprised at all if this happens
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:43 PM   #46
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As a Clemson fan my ideal situation would be this:

Clemson, Miami, GT, and FSU all join the Big 12. Gives the conference the Miami and Atlanta markets along with adding two quality teams in Clemson and FSU. These teams and WVU along with any 2 of the current members could make one division. A Big 12 with Texas, OU, FSU, Clemson, Okie State, K-State, TCU, & Miami would have the potential to rival the SEC.

Yall thought the same thing when you added The U and VT to the ACC....how did that work out for you?
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:59 PM   #47
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Maryland is the guinea pig right now. If the ACC's buyout fails in court, look for the ACC to fall apart quickly.
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:11 PM   #48
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Well word is they have contacted the SEC about joining. No matter what we say, if Mike wants FSU & Clemson in the SEC then theyll be included.
Mike Slive is more about harmony, consensus and unanimity than he is about dictating what he wants. He has already portrayed his vision which is to not expand in any states where they already have an SEC footprint. It is ALL about money and adding to the geographic footprint, along with well-recognized programs and universities. ATm and Mizzou were the perfect choices for the first wave.

Clemsux, Louisville, GT and FSU add NOTHING to the conference and would only seriously disrupt the harmony that exists. See the Big 12 or EZZ for conferences that lack harmony.
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The only way Taterville Tech joins the SEC is in their dreams.
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:35 PM   #50
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I'm starting to get worried that Clemson might really have a shot in joining the SEC. Rumors are that Clemson is in talks with the SEC as we speak. I understand the TV marketing strategy but I think the SEC learned their lesson with that after allowing Mizzu in.
TV is exactly why Clemson has no prayer. SC is a pretty small TV market to start with and having us already locks it up. Think about it. What 2 games are you always going to watch if you are home to watch? Us and Clemson. Same is true for them. It only matters to the SEC if you are tuning in, not who you are pulling for. Fla. St. and Ga. Tech have a similar problem but both are bigger TV markets so they could have a slim chance.

Adding Clemson would add almost nothing in ratings. Why piss us off and go through headaches for that?
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:45 PM   #51
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As a Clemson fan my ideal situation would be this:

Clemson, Miami, GT, and FSU all join the Big 12. Gives the conference the Miami and Atlanta markets along with adding two quality teams in Clemson and FSU. These teams and WVU along with any 2 of the current members could make one division. A Big 12 with Texas, OU, FSU, Clemson, Okie State, K-State, TCU, & Miami would have the potential to rival the SEC.
Didn't the ACC say the same thing about Miami, FSU, BC, VT that they would better the conference in fact the ACC went downhill after they joined
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:41 PM   #53
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Didn't the ACC say the same thing about Miami, FSU, BC, VT that they would better the conference in fact the ACC went downhill after they joined
I wonder if the ACC drug these teams down because it was bad in the first place. At least the Big 12 is decent.
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Well word is they have contacted the SEC about joining. No matter what we say, if Mike wants FSU & Clemson in the SEC then theyll be included.
Wrong, the member universities would vote to allow or not to allow another school to join. It isn't up to Mike soley.
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South Carolina doesn't want to allow Clemson in.

Georgia doesn't want to allow Georgia Tech in.

Florida doesn't want to allow Florida State in.

Collectively, they work together to make sure their main rival doesn't get in. Clemson isn't getting in. As far as I'm aware, you need only one veto, a system that I expect to remain in place precisely because of the situations above.
The folk in Athens do not want CU. They are closer than Columbia. That is not a huge population area to begin with...The state of Florida could probably support two SEC teams due to population. FSU and Miami are in the same conference as it is.
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As a Clemson fan my ideal situation would be this:

Clemson, Miami, GT, and FSU all join the Big 12. Gives the conference the Miami and Atlanta markets along with adding two quality teams in Clemson and FSU. These teams and WVU along with any 2 of the current members could make one division. A Big 12 with Texas, OU, FSU, Clemson, Okie State, K-State, TCU, & Miami would have the potential to rival the SEC.

So you're saying you want to play West Virginia every year....LOL. you dont want that i thought 70 points hurt enough the first time.oh wait its clemson yall like getting butt raped
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Clemsuck brings nothing to the SEC it doesn't already have ! FAIL!
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I'm starting to get worried that Clemson might really have a shot in joining the SEC. Rumors are that Clemson is in talks with the SEC as we speak. I understand the TV marketing strategy but I think the SEC learned their lesson with that after allowing Mizzu in.
And exactly where did this revelation come from. If this were to happen, half the donors at Carolina would stop giving, permanently.
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As a Clemson fan my ideal situation would be this:

Clemson, Miami, GT, and FSU all join the Big 12. Gives the conference the Miami and Atlanta markets along with adding two quality teams in Clemson and FSU. These teams and WVU along with any 2 of the current members could make one division. A Big 12 with Texas, OU, FSU, Clemson, Okie State, K-State, TCU, & Miami would have the potential to rival the SEC.
This is a very likely scenario.
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Wrong, the member universities would vote to allow or not to allow another school to join. It isn't up to Mike soley.
Slive has no authority to allow any school to join. Could he lobby on their behalf, sure, but that would create such hard feelings, I think he would be fired.
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