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Old 11-28-2012, 01:21 AM   #21
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Default Re: looks like clowney might be our second heisman

Clowney has surpassed Suh's number of sacks and TFL from his 2009 (senior) season at Nebraska. But, Suh was credited with about 30 more tackles from the stats I saw.

Didn't Suh get invited to NY as a finalist? Obviously, Ingram won...I recall that much.
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Clowney has surpassed Suh's number of sacks and TFL from his 2009 (senior) season at Nebraska. But, Suh was credited with about 30 more tackles from the stats I saw.

Didn't Suh get invited to NY as a finalist? Obviously, Ingram won...I recall that much.

Suh was a DT which made getting his sack total that much more impressive.
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Old 11-28-2012, 01:50 AM   #23
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Who was the last "D" player to win it ...................You got 3 seconds............
The "last" defensive player to win the Heisman??? There's only been one, ever . . .

and yes, it was Woodson.
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Old 11-28-2012, 01:51 AM   #24
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Suh was a DT which made getting his sack total that much more impressive.
IMO I think it is easier for a DT to get a sack than an end.
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IMO I think it is easier for a DT to get a sack than an end.

Disagree. DT's are typically built to stop the run up the middle. DE's rush the QB and handle the edge. There are plenty of guys each year who get 10+ sacks but they are almost always DE's with a few rare exceptions (Suh, Fairley).
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Disagree. DT's are typically built to stop the run up the middle. DE's rush the QB and handle the edge. There are plenty of guys each year who get 10+ sacks but they are almost always DE's with a few rare exceptions (Suh, Fairley).
Agree. Regardless, they were/are both NFL starters playing in college which helped their sack totals more than anything.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:32 AM   #27
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If the SEC called holding, he could put up serious numbers, but since they don't, he hasn't a chance to win it.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:42 AM   #28
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Default Re: looks like clowney might be our second heisman

If he starts the year well, getting sacks and tfl, I bet we get the ball in his hands a la MI6. A few big highlights like that, 12-15 sacks, and at least 10 wins for us, and he's top 3.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:46 AM   #29
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If he starts the year well, getting sacks and tfl, I bet we get the ball in his hands a la MI6. A few big highlights like that, 12-15 sacks, and at least 10 wins for us, and he's top 3.
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Seriously think that we need to add Todd Ellis' "Let him eat" to the 3rd down music/sounds over the PA at WB. Rooster crow then "Let him eat, Let him eat".
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:13 AM   #31
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But Woodson was a great defensive/special teams player. He was electric and could play all three phases of the game.

I would think Clowney would need some crazy numbers and a few highlight reel plays to be in the top three contenders. Maybe a strip/score or a pick 6 (which I don't think he's scored a TD in his career here).
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:18 AM   #32
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IMO I think it is easier for a DT to get a sack than an end.
100% disagree with this.
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20 Sacks. Boom.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:43 AM   #34
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He is hands down the best player in college football regardless if he wins it.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:52 AM   #35
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The closest a pure defensive player has come to winning is second. Hugh Green the year George won. Woodson won because of his kick/punt returns. Suh finished fourth.
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Default Re: looks like clowney might be our second heisman

Clowney got a few votes this year.

Who was the last Gamecock to receive votes?

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Wait, that Clemson guy on the radio with Corey says CJ should still be winning it.
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If he can combine the type of year Melvin had last year next year, getting into the endzone a few times and some picks, and the year he's had this year, he will be in NY and win it.
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He is hands down the best player in college football regardless if he wins it.
Completely agree ... no other player in college ball impacts the game the way Clowney does. He must be accounted for on every single play by the offense or it is lights out.
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If he can combine the type of year Melvin had last year next year, getting into the endzone a few times and some picks, and the year he's had this year, he will be in NY and win it.
I agree he has a great shot at it, but we must also develop another DE like Devon to keep the double teams to a minimum. The good news is that he can be moved around on the line, and he potentially could be even bigger next year. YIKES!
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