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Old 12-07-2012, 09:31 AM   #21
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1000's of UT fans just got the news jumped up out of their chairs and screamed.........."Who?"
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End up with their 5th or 6th choice again? Wow, things must be a bit rockier than the old days on Rocky Top
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I hereby nominate "Dooley-Over" as his official nickname
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Source for anyone who wants it.

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They hired Butch???

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He coached under Brian Kelly, the ND coach, for a long time and since ND is in the national championship, people think that may be one of his disciples can pull the same with their team. I think that it is a bad move, but looks like their options must have been few and far between.
Kelly is a good coach who realized he had to change his system to go to the top. Jones is one of his guys but that is not the system that Kelly has used to take ND to the championship.
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I Am pretty happy with this hire. Not sexy, definitely not my first choice, but I think he is a good football coach.

Pros
He’s 50-27 as a HC
Won back to back Big East Coach of the year awards
Finished 1st in his division 4 years, 2nd two times and last once
Also he is 2-1 vs. Charlie Strong
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Not sure of his recruiting ability
Has followed Brian Kelly and hasn't really had to "build" anything before

And oh yea, a lot better than Dooley!
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:58 AM   #28
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So they hire someone with no SEC experience and a background in offense? Why not just keep Dooley, this is clearly not an upgrade. The most important point is still coming, who will be the defensive coordinator?

I guess on the plus side, the UT job is more attractive than Colorado and Purdue apparently.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:59 AM   #29
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Really? This guys claim to fame is beating Vandy in Liberty Bowl last year.

Obviously, Tenn AD Hart is worried about sowing up 4th place in the SEC East.

I can't stand him, but would love to hear Jim Rome's "take" on this fiasco..."epic" followed by "fail"



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I Am pretty happy with this hire. Not sexy, definitely not my first choice, but I think he is a good football coach.

Pros
Hes 50-27 as a HC
Won back to back Big East Coach of the year awards
Finished 1st in his division 4 years, 2nd two times and last once
Also he is 2-1 vs. Charlie Strong
Cons
Not sure of his recruiting ability
Has followed Brian Kelly and hasn't really had to "build" anything before

And oh yea, a lot better than Dooley!
Dooley beat him
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He just took the Cal job and 5 days later is leaving for UT. That is a bad PR move.
did he really? I knew he backed out of the Colorado job search after he had been basically been their number one target. Is that what you were referring to? or did he bail on three teams for Tennessee (Cincy, Cal, and Colorado)?
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Tenn should have kept Dooley and overhauled the Defense.They could have gotten Ellis and been in pretty decent shape now.
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:03 AM   #33
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Kelly is an insanely overrated coach. They should NEVER have struggled to beat Pitt, Purdue, etc, especially with apparently the greatest LB ever (college football awards were forever tarnished last night). I guarantee Bmma will beat them worse than they did LSU last year

They should have lost multiple times, but the refs really screwed Stanford and Pitt over.

Butch Jones is 3 and done at UT, zero chance he can outrecruit us, UGay, or Fla... I actually highly doubt he will be able to outrecruit Vandy and Franklin (best recruiter in the East).. Even UK has a better coach with a bigger name ol
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I Am pretty happy with this hire. Not sexy, definitely not my first choice, but I think he is a good football coach.

Pros
Hes 50-27 as a HC
Won back to back Big East Coach of the year awards
Finished 1st in his division 4 years, 2nd two times and last once
Also he is 2-1 vs. Charlie Strong
Cons
Not sure of his recruiting ability
Has followed Brian Kelly and hasn't really had to "build" anything before
Lost to Rutgers this year and Louisville
Has never beaten a top 25 team-in 5 seasons
Offensive minded coach to a team in dire need of defense

And oh yea, a lot better than Dooley!
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Boooyaaa, I love this hire. They just fell below Vandy in the SEC east and will be fighting KY and Mizz for last place. Nice hire Tennescum!!
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I Am pretty happy with this hire. Not sexy, definitely not my first choice, but I think he is a good football coach.

Pros
Hes 50-27 as a HC
Won back to back Big East Coach of the year awards
Finished 1st in his division 4 years, 2nd two times and last once
Also he is 2-1 vs. Charlie Strong
Cons
Not sure of his recruiting ability
Has followed Brian Kelly and hasn't really had to "build" anything before

And oh yea, a lot better than Dooley!
-Coach of the Year point - sorry, so did Larry Coker; not impressive
-Charlie Strong is a helluva better recruiter (with SEC ties) than Butch Jones...plus Strong hasn't had a losing season at L'ville

This has all the markings of Tenn fans grasping...grasping for straws. Not smack talk...but think UT just declined further with this Non-SEC ties hire.
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With a much more talented team. Not a fair judgement.
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did he really? I knew he backed out of the Colorado job search after he had been basically been their number one target. Is that what you were referring to? or did he bail on three teams for Tennessee (Cincy, Cal, and Colorado)?
He was offered by Kentucky, Purdue and Colorado and declined them all.

Not exactly elite programs though.
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Tennessee should have tried to make Bob Stoops the richest coach in college. I think Saban is 5.5 mil or something they should have gone in and offered Stoops 8 million a year. It would have been one of the only big names that would have made an impact. He has the national name to help recruiting, the proven track record, and has taken Oklahoma as far as he can or so it looks. His brother getting hired as UK really messed up this thought.
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He just took the Cal job and 5 days later is leaving for UT. That is a bad PR move.
He never took the Cal job. He was offered the Colorado job, but declined it to stay at Cincy.

Then he was offered the UT job.

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