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Old 12-07-2012, 03:15 PM   #101
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Literally almost every football writer says this is a really good hire for us.

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Old 12-07-2012, 03:16 PM   #102
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Not as bad of a hire as people think. He's not a Charlie Strong type hire but this guy has a proven track record and has won everywhere he's been. He's one of the best hires (behind Petrino) that they could've made given who was available.
I think our main problem is the perception of the search. We targeted coaches that were never going to leave and allowed our fanbase to view this as an epic failure. Now Butch has an even bigger hill to climb.

PR is non-existant at TN the past 5 years.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:27 PM   #103
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:31 PM   #104
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He coached under Brian Kelly, the ND coach, for a long time and since ND is in the national championship, people think that may be one of his disciples can pull the same with their team. I think that it is a bad move, but looks like their options must have been few and far between.

i just had instant flashbacks to amato and brad scott failures
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I think our main problem is the perception of the search. We targeted coaches that were never going to leave and allowed our fanbase to view this as an epic failure. Now Butch has an even bigger hill to climb.

PR is non-existant at TN the past 5 years.
You guys should have never run off Fulmer (and I don't mean you personally, unless you were at his house w/ a pitchfork).

Butch Jones is a decent hire. Your point here is a really good one; I think a lot of coaches (Strong, Gundy, Gruden) realized that
- UT Athletic Department isn't exactly swimming in cash presently (I know they had a lot to offer, but as far as facility upgrades/the arms race, etc., not so much. Presently, at least.)
- Tennessee isn't fertile recruiting territory and it's increasingly difficult to go into NC/SC/GA/etc.
- Whoever is hired is expected to win almost immediately.

Jones is better than a lot of the names that were beginning to be thrown around (Clay Travis mentioning Hue Jackson, for God's sake), but the move (after missing on the other guys) that would've been terrifying as a fan of a rival school was Petrino. My reaction to Jones: "Well, he is a person who coaches football. He could be good, I guess."
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:40 PM   #106
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I actually think they got the best coach of the group they were after. I hope I am wrong though.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:50 PM   #107
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Literally almost every football writer says this is a really good hire for us.

I am getting excited.
It sure as hell is better than Dooley, but almost anyone would be. I don't know if it is a homerun hire, it does have potential, but his biggest battle I think will be against yall's own fanbase.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:53 PM   #108
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Here's to UT being the bottom dwellers for years to come!!!
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:00 PM   #109
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Literally almost every football writer says this is a really good hire for us.

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Says the guy that was almost sure last week that he was getting Gruden?
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:03 PM   #110
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Says the guy that was almost sure last week that he was getting Gruden?
Lol Touche!
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:29 PM   #111
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Says the guy that was almost sure last week that he was getting Gruden?

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Good Read, I caution all of you from laughing right now. Wait till the staff is filled out, signing day is done a he gets to coach a couple seasons.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...d-at-tennessee
He will have the chance to prove his worth. The part that has everyone laughing (well me at least) is the fact that this guy had to be at least #7 or 8 on your AD's "Most Wanted List".
And don't give me "we only offered the job to 2 people" BS. You don't offer the job to people that aren't interested (i.e. Patterson,Peterson, etc..)


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Old 12-07-2012, 07:51 PM   #113
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i wish my name was BUTCH wait no i dont....
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:51 PM   #114
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Literally almost every football writer says this is a really good hire for us.

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To quote the great George Costanza...it's not a lie if you believe it!
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:19 PM   #115
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Does it really bother you that much that Clemson calls you USCe that you need to always reference this with TN?
Eric, I truly do not mind. I lived out west for a time and most people say USCw and USCe. It was not important until our program took off.
I am glad you have a coach. Recruits needed to see that.
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Would have been a good hire had they not agreed to pay him $3m per year for 6 years. That, to me, is an outrageous contract for the risk of the hire
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:53 AM   #117
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I think at this point in time they got the best coach that they could. Whether he can be successful or not is anybody's guess, but the odds are against him. I agree with the poster that said they should have kept Dooley and hired Ellis. But I'm glad they didn't.
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Literally almost every football writer says this is a really good hire for us.

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so, if you go too journalism shool, your opinion holds merit? they know best?
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:32 AM   #119
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Would have been a good hire had they not agreed to pay him $3m per year for 6 years. That, to me, is an outrageous contract for the risk of the hire
I agree with you, but NO coach was going to go there without a long term deal after what happened with Dooley. TN had zero leverage, Gruden would have gotten a 10 yr deal.
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This is fantastic.

Tennessee continues it's suicide march.
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