The 2013 Graveyard Thread

[KaneisAble]

Originally Posted by Kickerspl80

Our recruiting budget is one of the lowest in the country. Fly Steve in to visit Rueben Foster and press hard. That kid has no idea what he really wants to do, so go for it

It's not like we're a mid-major guaranteeing playing time. We're one game away from the SEC Championship which is one game away from a national championship and YOU WILL SEE THE FIELD AS A FRESHMAN. Baffling. I hope we can salvage this class, but I'm dubious.

[BuCockyfan]

Originally Posted by KaneisAble

We can agree to disagree, but all the major recruiting services rank him higher. Factor in that he could actually see the field next season and it's a net win for me.

The only reason you think he's better is because Rolin decommitted. If Rolin were still here, you'd be saying something different, most likely "recruiting services don't matter."

[Goofyboy]

I've been pleased over the years that the staff recruits well for needs, puts overall team strength over class ratings, and maintains integrity with the recruits. Developing a team of players who respect each other, regard their own futures, and are coachable can pay off more than sprinkling in recruits who don't buy-in to the work ethic and personal and team accountability the coaches stress. Spurrier is very pleased with the capabilities and overall chemistry among his staff at this time. The overall talent level of the team seems to still be rising even though we are at the level that lets us play and beat the best. A couple of key position upgrades will probably get us there. At first, this year, I thought they went a little linebacker crazy, but looking at what we are losing, along with the Rolin defection and Dallas move, I think they are on-track and adjusting as needed. We fans need to realize that you will - not might - miss some, and not get distraught at every disappointment.

[KaneisAble]

Originally Posted by CoverTwo

Depends on what your expectations are. For people that think USC should be recruiting top 5-10 classes every year, well I'm going to keep saying it, it will not happen. Finishing between 15-20 on average with a year here and there where you strike big is realistic.

My expectation is 10-15 range, w/ cracking the Top 10 (or Cocky willing, Top 5) every 3-5 years. And I know kids flipping is inevitable, but it doesn't seem to happen as much to UF, UGA, Bama, LSU. And when it does, it's mitigated by the fact that their ratio of 4 to 3 stars is basically 2/1, where ours is 1/3.

It just feels like our recent success should be paying more dividends than it presently is; JaQuay Williams just wanted to meet Clowney. I don't think he was ever seriously considering us. My biggest worry w/ the team (and this class) is LB, which is something we went from being potentially stacked at to insanely thin.

All I want for Christmas is Foster. Barring that, Nagouke and a solid JUCO/Prep kid will do just fine.

[KaneisAble]

Originally Posted by BuCockyfan

The only reason you think he's better is because Rolin decommitted. If Rolin were still here, you'd be saying something different, most likely "recruiting services don't matter."

? Oh I would, would I? Can you point me to where I've said "recruiting services don't matter"? Please. Fill me in since you're so familiar w/ my opinion on recruiting services. If Rolin were still coming here Powell probably doesn't decommit and we're not even having this conversation.

I'm saying he's better because he's ranked better by every service and isn't coming off of a severe knee injury that will prevent him from contributing at all next season and could potentially inhibit his abilities moving forward. So take your condescension elsewhere, champ. I'm good.

[ReadR00ster]

Relax people it's a personal opinion. I think think all three are close and I would be glad to have any but I would order them.

1. Rolin
2. Nagkoue
3. Powell

[MikeTrainNC8]

Originally Posted by Kickerspl80

Our recruiting budget is one of the lowest in the country.

Negative

We need a big Gerald Turner type LB to finish this class off

Wait aren't you the one who said he wasn't very intimidating physically? We have Gerald Turner already.. but even he looks to be almost too big for LB (in the future).. I was very high on him, but he is already 6'1 250 lbs at age 18, he will only get bigger, looks like a future DL to me

We need to keep getting big boy LB's though, like LSU/Bama

[CockTail]

Someone reported on another thread that Powell was headed to either Miami our Southern Cal, but who knows. And yes, he was pissed about the Rolin commitment.

[EveryThingGreen]

There is a LB from Alabama that was a 2* before the season and now is a 4*. He had 195 tackles this year. Someone to watch

[Gamecocks321]

Originally Posted by CockTail

Someone reported on another thread that Powell was headed to either Miami our Southern Cal, but who knows. And yes, he was pissed about the Rolin commitment.

Miami sucks, every home game will feel like a scrimmage because their fans don't care. Southern Cal is on the other side of the country and their a has been. How can you have the talent they have and still finish 7-5? But hey, it's his decision.

[KaneisAble]

Originally Posted by EveryThingGreen

There is a LB from Alabama that was a 2* before the season and now is a 4*. He had 195 tackles this year. Someone to watch

What's his name?

[KaneisAble]

Originally Posted by ReadR00ster

Relax people it's a personal opinion. I think think all three are close and I would be glad to have any but I would order them.

1. Rolin
2. Nagkoue
3. Powell

That's fair. I Put Nagkoue above Rolin (particularly after the injury) and Powell and Rolin as 2 and 2A. Powell being on the smaller side is a knock.

[duff18]

How does this go over with this kid's HS coach? This sort of thing always seems to burn a bridge, but hope it's not the case here. I would also have to think the coaches have someone they feel good about to fill this slot.

[gotrice?]

Originally Posted by KaneisAble

My expectation is 10-15 range, w/ cracking the Top 10 (or Cocky willing, Top 5) every 3-5 years. And I know kids flipping is inevitable, but it doesn't seem to happen as much to UF, UGA, Bama, LSU. And when it does, it's mitigated by the fact that their ratio of 4 to 3 stars is basically 2/1, where ours is 1/3.

It just feels like our recent success should be paying more dividends than it presently is; JaQuay Williams just wanted to meet Clowney. I don't think he was ever seriously considering us. My biggest worry w/ the team (and this class) is LB, which is something we went from being potentially stacked at to insanely thin.

All I want for Christmas is Foster. Barring that, Nagouke and a solid JUCO/Prep kid will do just fine.

This year 15-20 is just more realistic, especially this year. A weaker year instate results in that. Next year top 10 is realistic based on instate talent which should be very very strong. You shouldn't look at every year the same way the 1st thing you have to do is survey the talent in SC and see how it stacks up to what we've seen in the Spurrier era. This one may not fall in the top 5 so you have to change your expectations barring a little luck out of state with a 5 star or something like that.

[gamecock88]

In recent history, who have we taken away from someon else. Someone who verbally committed elsewhere and our recruiters took away from them?

[EveryThingGreen]

Originally Posted by KaneisAble

What's his name?

http://247sports.com/Player/Zach-Cunningham-18704

Just found his name

[gotrice?]

Originally Posted by gamecock88

In recent history, who have we taken away from someon else. Someone who verbally committed elsewhere and our recruiters took away from them?

Alshon Jeffrey, Clifton Geathers, Ladi Ajiboye, Mike Davis, Devonte Holloman

[Goofyboy]

In recent history, who have we taken away from someon else. Someone who verbally committed elsewhere and our recruiters took away from them?
.

Chris Moody from Vandy. I think we got a couple of decommits from NC maybe the last 2 years.

[DawginCola]

Originally Posted by CockTail

You can only play 11 players at a time, so as long as our 11 are as good as their 11, that is all that matters. The fact that FLA is 7 deep at 4*running back doesn't matter.

Not totally true. While your starting 11 will decide the outcome of the first half, it's the quality of your 2nd and 3rd string depth that often decide close games in the 4th quarter. While there are a lot of GOOD teams in the SEC, it's really the depth that separates the GREAT teams.

[elcid99]

Cunningham - longshot. Nagkoue is a beast....6'3 230. Yes please.