Large Size Running Back - Page 2

ConwayGamecock · 12-12-2012, 05:55 PM

Yeah someone who is 5-8, 5-9, 5-10 and 200-210 lbs may be just as tough to tackle as someone 6-2, 230. They could be as strong (or stronger), with powerful legs and a lower center of gravity. All sorts of tangibles factor into it....

ConwayGamecock · 12-12-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Flameout12

Hill is the guy who ran all over us and he's listed at 225. Brandon Wilds was listed at 223 as a FR. Both are 6'2".
220-225 is plenty big enough to run over most LBs and DBs.

LSU officially lists him at 235:

http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle...&Q_SEASON=2012

Carolina Pride · 12-12-2012, 06:04 PM

I wouldn't mind locating Saben's running back stash...It amazes me how he manages to find all these guys that are built and can run like Ingram and Richardson and he seems to just replace them every year with no drop off. Granted running behind the line they have every year certainly helps

OLDCHARLESTONIAN · 12-12-2012, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Carolina Pride

I wouldn't mind locating Saben's running back stash...It amazes me how he manages to find all these guys that are built and can run like Ingram and Richardson and he seems to just replace them every year with no drop off. Granted running behind the line they have every year certainly helps

That's the kind of back Saban wants and recruits. Plus he's at Bama, which guarantees that top backs will look at the school hard.

gamecock88 · 12-12-2012, 07:00 PM

We need a big bruising line for a big bruising back to succeed. Put Bama's backs behind our OL and they suddenly look average. Our OL is built more for quicker backs or misdirection / zone read type running.

dieselcock · 12-12-2012, 08:21 PM

Not a TB,but I'd love to see Rainey in a DiMarco type role...we've missed that out of the backfield. I'd love to see some more 2 back sets also..

b381l · 12-12-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rileytm

Kendrick Salley can be that guy after another year or two in the weight room. He is wider than Wilds or Davis.

If we get Williams in the fold this year, we will have an absolute stable of RB in 2 years. Davis, Wilds, Salley, Smith and Williams all can make some noise.

But Salley is only 5'9" or 10". I would doubt he ever gets bigger than 215.

Glamcock · 12-12-2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rileytm

Kendrick Salley can be that guy after another year or two in the weight room. He is wider than Wilds or Davis.

If we get Williams in the fold this year, we will have an absolute stable of RB in 2 years. Davis, Wilds, Salley, Smith and Williams all can make some noise.

This. I've seen Salley in person, and he is quite a bit bigger than Wilds. Dude has huge shoulders, and a big frame. He's kind of scary looking.

Salley is also at least 5'11". He probably weighs 220-225.

dreammachine · 12-12-2012, 10:30 PM

Some great posts here concerning USC having a larger running back. I think what I am suggesting is having a specialty RB who would be a little larger for certain situations. Granted you will give up some speed, but what you get in "ocean in motion" would tend to make up for the loss of speed in certain situations. Andrew Pinnock would never win a foot race with anybody when we had him, but my goodness trying to tackle him was a chore. I also agree that these type RB just don't grow on trees and if there is one then everybody is trying to recruit them. That being said, you can always convert a player into a situational RB for those plays. We do it all the time with receivers, linebackers, and sometimes we take a RB and let him be a D-Lineman. I think that Melvin Ingram was a FB in high school as well as a LB. I think that Kenny Miles did not play RB until he was a senior in high school, before that he was a LB. It can be done, I just don't know if our coaching staff with the way they run our offense would ever consider doing something like this?

crowcutta · 12-12-2012, 10:52 PM

i understand what you mean. tennessee brought in their lb ex high school qb for direct snaps in short yardage. oklahoma has a huge qb they bring in during short yardage. then there are teams with a jumbo package that may have a combo fb that they can put at tb and have a fb or te lead block for him in the I formation.

we theoretically could have done something similar with qua gilchrist, but it becomes a question of do you want to try that or run it with lattimore instead. its something that may or may not work, but it also may be an option if you want to limit your starter's carries.

odds are our coaches would only go to something like this as a last resort. personally i think guys like lattimore, wilds and even davis give you that perfect balance of power and ability to make something on their own in short yardage especially with a line that doesnt always get a lot of movement.

Rebel4ever · 12-12-2012, 11:24 PM

There is some RB from Florida, a junior I think, that has committed to Alabama supposed to be bigger than Lachy. Like 6'3,260 or something crazy like that. Anyone know who that is or am I wrong?

pitchcock · 12-13-2012, 09:23 AM

I wish we would've been able to get the RB that played at Goose Creek last year. Can't remember his name, but he was a big guy...maybe 5'11", 250 lbs. At one time he was going to JUCO, then SC State, but I didn't recognize his name looking at the roster.

I think there's value with having a sledgehammer RB like a Pinnock, particularly in short yardage. SEC defenses in particular are so big, sometimes you may need a big guy to move the pile.

mike1520 · 12-13-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pitchcock

I wish we would've been able to get the RB that played at Goose Creek last year. Can't remember his name, but he was a big guy...maybe 5'11", 250 lbs. At one time he was going to JUCO, then SC State, but I didn't recognize his name looking at the roster.

I think there's value with having a sledgehammer RB like a Pinnock, particularly in short yardage. SEC defenses in particular are so big, sometimes you may need a big guy to move the pile.

Virgil Smalls

b381l · 12-14-2012, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mike1520

Virgil Smalls

Exactly. I remember nobody could tackle the guy last year, except maybe his brother Brandon Shell. Didn't he end up at SC State. Is there any chance after 2 years, he could get into Carolina.

LakeMonticelloCock · 12-14-2012, 08:35 AM

About 6-7 years ago Midland Valley had two RBs over 250. They weren't all that great, but it was impressive to see a HS rotate in two huge backs like that.

CockLurker · 12-14-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ConwayGamecock

One thing I've noticed with Alabama RBs is that their S&C program really gets those guys built up, going back to before Ingram, with Glen Coffee. Huge arms and upper bodies. It makes them look even bigger than they are....

Yeah, their staff tends to provide only the best "supplements" for their players

Rh Gamecock · 12-14-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mike1520

Virgil Smalls

He was going to be fullback if I remember correctly

Wiz Khalifa · 12-14-2012, 04:07 PM

i want B.Wilds up to 225 to 230. dude would be a bruiser!

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gamecock88 All Everything Male Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SC Posts: 5,546 CockyCash: 1080543	Re: Large Size Running Back We need a big bruising line for a big bruising back to succeed. Put Bama's backs behind our OL and they suddenly look average. Our OL is built more for quicker backs or misdirection / zone read type running.

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dieselcock Blue Chip Male Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: j-town Posts: 602 CockyCash: 500	Re: Large Size Running Back Not a TB,but I'd love to see Rainey in a DiMarco type role...we've missed that out of the backfield. I'd love to see some more 2 back sets also.. __________________

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dreammachine Starter Male Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Clearwater, S.C. Posts: 1,471 CockyCash: 500	Re: Large Size Running Back Some great posts here concerning USC having a larger running back. I think what I am suggesting is having a specialty RB who would be a little larger for certain situations. Granted you will give up some speed, but what you get in "ocean in motion" would tend to make up for the loss of speed in certain situations. Andrew Pinnock would never win a foot race with anybody when we had him, but my goodness trying to tackle him was a chore. I also agree that these type RB just don't grow on trees and if there is one then everybody is trying to recruit them. That being said, you can always convert a player into a situational RB for those plays. We do it all the time with receivers, linebackers, and sometimes we take a RB and let him be a D-Lineman. I think that Melvin Ingram was a FB in high school as well as a LB. I think that Kenny Miles did not play RB until he was a senior in high school, before that he was a LB. It can be done, I just don't know if our coaching staff with the way they run our offense would ever consider doing something like this?

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crowcutta 2nd Team All-American Male Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: land de la rich Posts: 8,991 CockyCash: 1000	Re: Large Size Running Back i understand what you mean. tennessee brought in their lb ex high school qb for direct snaps in short yardage. oklahoma has a huge qb they bring in during short yardage. then there are teams with a jumbo package that may have a combo fb that they can put at tb and have a fb or te lead block for him in the I formation. we theoretically could have done something similar with qua gilchrist, but it becomes a question of do you want to try that or run it with lattimore instead. its something that may or may not work, but it also may be an option if you want to limit your starter's carries. odds are our coaches would only go to something like this as a last resort. personally i think guys like lattimore, wilds and even davis give you that perfect balance of power and ability to make something on their own in short yardage especially with a line that doesnt always get a lot of movement.

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Rebel4ever The Paradigm Shift Male Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Duncan Posts: 8,583 CockyCash: 200	Re: Large Size Running Back There is some RB from Florida, a junior I think, that has committed to Alabama supposed to be bigger than Lachy. Like 6'3,260 or something crazy like that. Anyone know who that is or am I wrong? __________________

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pitchcock 2nd Team All-SEC Male Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Goose Creek, SC Posts: 3,013 CockyCash: 29785700	Re: Large Size Running Back I wish we would've been able to get the RB that played at Goose Creek last year. Can't remember his name, but he was a big guy...maybe 5'11", 250 lbs. At one time he was going to JUCO, then SC State, but I didn't recognize his name looking at the roster. I think there's value with having a sledgehammer RB like a Pinnock, particularly in short yardage. SEC defenses in particular are so big, sometimes you may need a big guy to move the pile.

12-14-2012, 08:35 AM	#35
LakeMonticelloCock Blue Chip Male Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fairfield County, SC Posts: 696 CockyCash: 500	Re: Large Size Running Back About 6-7 years ago Midland Valley had two RBs over 250. They weren't all that great, but it was impressive to see a HS rotate in two huge backs like that.

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Wiz Khalifa Blue Chip Male Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: SC Posts: 958 CockyCash: 200	Re: Large Size Running Back i want B.Wilds up to 225 to 230. dude would be a bruiser!

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