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Old 12-14-2012, 12:46 PM   #41
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For Comparison (ANY GIVEN YEAR):

In the SEC in either Division, lose one Conference Game and your chances
of winning your Division are Slim. Lose Two and it's near impossible.

In the ACC (just ask Georgia Tech how that works over there).

HELL, Even Clemson lost 2 of it's last 3 Conf. games last year, and
Won the ACC. In the SEC doing that is the nail in the coffin as far
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Well South Carolina lost 3 conference games in 2010 and still won the division sooooooooo
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:33 PM   #42
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Well South Carolina lost 3 conference games in 2010 and still won the division sooooooooo
Clemson won their division that year and got smoked by Carolina soooooo...
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:11 PM   #43
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How has Dabo made the best with what he has?? They recruit some pretty elite talent....
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As a matter of fact, I find Dabo's recruiting "abilities" a little creepy. He manipulates 18 year old boys to play in a weak ass conference. A lot of talent gets wasted up there. His "we're all best friends" coaching style is a disservice to the players. Then there's the speeding ticket video..... He's a punk.
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Clemson won their division that year and got smoked by Carolina soooooo...
Electric - I think he's referring to 2010...when Clemson finished 6-7. They won their division crowns in '09 and '11.

However, winning the SEC East w/ 3 conference losses has only happened 1 time since USC & Arky joined in 1992. We just got lucky with UGA & Florida being down that year.

But hey, we've got a Division Champs banner sooner than I thought we would.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:18 PM   #45
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Electric - I think he's referring to 2010...when Clemson finished 6-7. They won their division crowns in '09 and '11.

However, winning the SEC East w/ 3 conference losses has only happened 1 time since USC & Arky joined in 1992. We just got lucky with UGA & Florida being down that year.

But hey, we've a Division Champs banner sooner than I thought we would.
Ah yes... I am mistaken. Oh well haha.
still 4 in a row though
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:20 PM   #46
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What i mean by "he's done the best he can"... Clemson is a toxic place to coach football and really just a toxic place all around!
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Swinney's job should be secure as long as they maintain where they are at right now....yes, losing to USC annually is unacceptable, but as long as they only have to beat one team all season long (FSU) and they waltz into conf. championships and BCS bowl opportunities, they'll eat those losses and hope the trend reverses eventually.

Swinney is NOT like Cooper at Ohio State.....in Cooper's case, it was a double-whammy: both Mich. and OSU are in the same conference and typically were the only teams in the Big 10 with realistic shots at conference championships and beyond. If you lost to OSU, you lost much more than just a rivalry game, and Cooper came too soon after the Schembechler years where the expectations every year were not just to beat OSU but to contend for national titles.

Since USC is no longer an ACC foe, CU can still chase and realize their vapid, irrational dreams of being a national "elite" by winning ACC titles even losing regularly to the Gamecocks. Swinney has gotten that achieved as long as the other ACC football schools (FSU, GT, VT, Miami) continue to flounder....
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