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Old 12-20-2012, 03:14 PM   #21
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I can't tell from the picture, but if he is not wearing his insignia he would not be in uniform. Anybody can go to a surplus store and buy the pants, shirt and hat.
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Old 12-20-2012, 05:30 PM   #23
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Though, I know that is the technical rule, you definitely see it violated a lot in the DC area. Just like they are not suppose to hold hands with a women when in that attire, but you will see men and women heading into the home depot holding hands while one or the other is in this attire.
You might see a member of the Air Force or Army out in town in their ACU/ABU
uniforms because it is actually allowed in those services but you should NEVER see a Marine off base in the general public in their MARPAT utility uniform. If you are caught you can actually be charged and serve time for it. That is how seriously the Marine Corps takes this. That uniform is for work and work only. Very rarely sometimes they will allow Marines to wear it when they are doing something like Toys for Tots or recruiting but it is very rare.
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I know it. My old roomate is national guard, we talked about the whole uniform deal. He would always call on his way home from drill to see if we needed groceries or anything. I'm sure some units are very strict and some a little more lax.
The National Guard like the regular Army does have some rules about wearing ACU's out in public but they are really not enforced and are viewed as more of a guideline that they would like you to follow. You see guys all around Columbia in their ACU's from Ft. Jackson. I even saw a drill Sgt with his campaign cover on inside Walmart once.
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Old 12-20-2012, 05:36 PM   #25
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Very bad idea. You don't want your cops fighting your wars and you don't want your soldiers being your cops. Different training, skill sets, and permissions.

Well it is not really that.

It stems from the Posse Comitatus Act and similar DoD directives.
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Old 12-20-2012, 05:53 PM   #26
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Well it is not really that.

It stems from the Posse Comitatus Act and similar DoD directives.
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Though, I know that is the technical rule, you definitely see it violated a lot in the DC area. Just like they are not suppose to hold hands with a women when in that attire, but you will see men and women heading into the home depot holding hands while one or the other is in this attire.
No one really wants to get into how much this is violated in the Charleston area alone.
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It's violated all the time.As in everything else, commands change and so do policies.Army does not allow either.You are also suppose to wear your cover outdoors but most national gaurd don'tI had to correct an E-5 inside of a publix for wearing his cover.If you remember years ago the national gaurd would be called in to cordan off areas and pull security.So why not our schools protecting our most precious possessions.
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No one really wants to get into how much this is violated in the Charleston area alone.
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It's violated all the time.As in everything else, commands change and so do policies.Army does not allow either.You are also suppose to wear your cover outdoors but most national gaurd don'tI had to correct an E-5 inside of a publix for wearing his cover.If you remember years ago the national gaurd would be called in to cordan off areas and pull security.So why not our schools protecting our most precious possessions.
According to the official US Army uniform policy it is ok to wear your ACU's off base as long as you wear them properly and do not do anything to dishonor the Army. It also says you can not wear them in any establishment that serves alcohol.
http://www.armyg1.army.mil/hr/uniform/
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My buddy brian did the same thing yesterday in calif..badass fb pic he sent..proud of him
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:10 PM   #31
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Well he is breaking many military laws doing it. That is a work uniform that he is wearing and it is never to be worn off of base. I can't understand how he ever considered doing this as it is drilled into your head constantly while on active duty. I know guys that got into big time trouble for just getting out of their vehicle to go into a gas station to get something to drink on their way home wearing their utility uniforms.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:11 PM   #32
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Can y'all please just read FloCocks comments. This is an off the charts violation in the Marine Corps. It is not, however, a big deal at all for other branches of service. That's why you see it in D.C., Charleston, the airport, or wherever. Unfortunately, the utility uniform of all services has started to look more alike recently so to the untrained eye it is hard to tell.

Bottom line is the good SSgt needs to go home.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:30 PM   #33
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I think it is great, I wish there were more people like him. Don't you think some nut will think twice about trying anything at that school. People who kill children are cowards and would never attack somewhere that wasn't defenseless.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:39 PM   #34
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Don't care if what he's doing is PC or not. But you can bet no worthless piece of crap is going to shoot up that school while he's there.
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Why not see to it that every school has one teacher/employee who carries a CCW permit and have a national training day where these teachers/employees are trained by law enforcement to be first responders. Much cheaper than staffing every school with a police officer the entire school year. If not for all the political bullshit, this would be a logical solution.

As for the Marine SSgt, kudos to him even if the Corps doesn't like it.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:24 AM   #36
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He said he was already discharged and only wore this one because his dress uniform was not clean and he wanted to be there the day after the Connecticut thing.
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Don't care if what he's doing is PC or not. But you can bet no worthless piece of crap is going to shoot up that school while he's there.
I seriously doubt if a deranged individual with a firearm will be stopped by one unarmed man standing in front of the school.
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He said he was already discharged and only wore this one because his dress uniform was not clean and he wanted to be there the day after the Connecticut thing.
We're obviously nit-picking here, but there are a variety of uniform choices in between utilities and dress blues. Kudos to him for wanting to take action of some sort. As a father, I understand completely. However, as a Marine I say it was a horrible call.
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Well, something needs to be done. Never thought I would be concerned about my eight year old going to school or my wife's safety as a teacher.
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I seriously doubt if a deranged individual with a firearm will be stopped by one unarmed man standing in front of the school.
I dunno man....he's in fatigues and you don't know if he's packing or not. I wouldn't mess with him or the school.
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