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Old 12-31-2012, 10:50 PM   #501
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I think that physically Cam has as much if not more talent than anyone in the NFL. Its his mental and leadership qualities that are questionable.
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I think that physically Cam has as much if not more talent than anyone in the NFL. Its his mental and leadership qualities that are questionable.
I think he showed something yesterday when he hurt his ankle pretty bad in a close game that in reality meant nothing. But he did everything he could to get back in the game. The sideline reporter said he didn't look away from the big screen once while he was on the trainers table. I think that says something about his leadership and caring about his teammates and team.
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I think that physically Cam has as much if not more talent than anyone in the NFL. Its his mental and leadership qualities that are questionable.
I think that's becoming an increasingly invalid argument. I really think the way he approached the game and his leadership drastically changed (for the better) after the Denver debacle.

RGIII had a great year this year. Luck had a pretty good year too. So did Cam when he was a rookie. However, defenses adjust, as Cam found out earlier this season. I'm not willing to say RGIII or Luck have a better future than Cam until I see how they do next September.

BTW RGIII should be the ROY hands down. Much higher QB rating, yards per attempt, and completion percentage than Luck and tons less INT's to boot.
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I would too.

My comment about RG3 wrapping it up wasn't my choice, I just feel that's who's going to win it considering where he plays, what his team did, and his flashy numbers. (remember it's an AP voted award)
I also think Russell Wilson is getting disrespected by not being mentioned in the OROY debate. And that because he plays in Seattle.

Like I said, for every 2 steps back SSO takes in the Cam debate you take a step Forward
i get where you coming from, the RG3 hype has been insane...and a big reason i think that Wilson doesnt get the hype is b/c he has the best D out of all 4 of those teams hands down (Carolina, Indy, Was, and Seattle)....also beast mode to hand off too

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All three of those rookies are in the playoffs. So when Cam does that may be then be can be classified as a good QB. He is nowhere near elite. The panthers won 6 games and 4 of them were against god awful teams that had basically quit on their coach. Also how can you claim anything about divisions when the panthers are playing in as weak a division as anyone else. Bucs and Saints were weak this year and yet they barely beat either team once in their 4 tries. So only team to worry a out this year was falcons and no one is sold on them being legit.

Luck had just as much preseason as newton, since Stanford is trimester and didn't finish the spring until July. Luck had to miss all those training camps because of league rules. Either way, the off season excuse is a joke.

You complain about D and no OL. Have you watched the redskins? They have had no OL and their D gives up 27 points a game, yet RG III has them in the playoffs. Great QBs are leaders and make their team better, Cam is not that.
I have not posted in over a year but I had to come back after this past season to serve up a lot of crow.....I really hope this guy is still here b/c he has the biggest plate
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I have not posted in over a year but I had to come back after this past season to serve up a lot of crow.....I really hope this guy is still here b/c he has the biggest plate

Believe it or not, the guy has actually doubled down since then. I can get that there are reasons to not like Cam. I really can. But some of this stuff is just hilarious.
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Cam is a great QB and football player overall...His relative lack of humility will not allow him to be a favorite of many...What worked for Joe Namath and Dan Marino simply will not work for him...Cockiness and arrogance are admired in some athletes but not tolerated in others...Just the way it is...
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Cam is a great QB and football player overall...His relative lack of humility will not allow him to be a favorite of many...What worked for Joe Namath and Dan Marino simply will not work for him...Cockiness and arrogance are admired in some athletes but not tolerated in others...Just the way it is...

The thing is, those things only matter to the people whose team you don't play for. In other words, it doesn't matter.
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The thing is, those things only matter to the people whose team you don't play for. In other words, it doesn't matter.
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Cam is a great QB and football player overall...His relative lack of humility will not allow him to be a favorite of many...What worked for Joe Namath and Dan Marino simply will not work for him...Cockiness and arrogance are admired in some athletes but not tolerated in others...Just the way it is...
Not exactly true. He's the highest paid spokesman in the NFL (active player - Peyton was #1 but is now retired).

He also has his own kids show on Nickelodeon and was in the top 3 in jersey sales for men, women, and children last year.

Cam dabs and it becomes a nation-wide phenomenon.

Bottom line - he's one of the most popular players in the league.
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Cam is a great QB and football player overall...His relative lack of humility will not allow him to be a favorite of many...What worked for Joe Namath and Dan Marino simply will not work for him...Cockiness and arrogance are admired in some athletes but not tolerated in others...Just the way it is...
There isnt a professional athlete on this planet that isnt cocky or arrogant in some sort of way. If you don't think you;re the best on the field you'll lose.

None of this has anything to do with his natural ability. He's the best athlete in the NFL right now...You can try to argue it, but its true. All these people talking about the "mental" aspect of his game, he's gotten over that hurdle as well for the most part. Its a maturation process.

What pisses me off, and this is the same with Lebron James is that people can't past their dislike for someone to see how good he really is. Lebron james is still the best all around player in the NBA. There is NO ONE as physically dominant as him right now, but people dislike him, so they won't admit it. Same with Cam Newton.
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There isnt a professional athlete on this planet that isnt cocky or arrogant in some sort of way. If you don't think you;re the best on the field you'll lose.

None of this has anything to do with his natural ability. He's the best athlete in the NFL right now...You can try to argue it, but its true. All these people talking about the "mental" aspect of his game, he's gotten over that hurdle as well for the most part. Its a maturation process.

What pisses me off, and this is the same with Lebron James is that people can't past their dislike for someone to see how good he really is. Lebron james is still the best all around player in the NBA. There is NO ONE as physically dominant as him right now, but people dislike him, so they won't admit it. Same with Cam Newton.
He's polarizing. He's extremely popular, especially with people under the age of 30 but his critics are very vocal and hate him with a passion.

Add to it that his critics are having to eat a shitload of crow, they end up hating him more and moving the uprights further out to define success. These same haters will deify Luck and praise him even though Luck hasn't accomplished 1/2 of what Newton has in his college/pro career.
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Cam Newton is one of the best players in the NFL.

But I dislike him.
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There isnt a professional athlete on this planet that isnt cocky or arrogant in some sort of way. If you don't think you;re the best on the field you'll lose.

None of this has anything to do with his natural ability. He's the best athlete in the NFL right now...You can try to argue it, but its true. All these people talking about the "mental" aspect of his game, he's gotten over that hurdle as well for the most part. Its a maturation process.

What pisses me off, and this is the same with Lebron James is that people can't past their dislike for someone to see how good he really is. Lebron james is still the best all around player in the NBA. There is NO ONE as physically dominant as him right now, but people dislike him, so they won't admit it. Same with Cam Newton.
totally agree! the funny thing is those Lebron haters will say Curry is the best player in the league (which I think as well but I would still choose Lebron to start a franchise over the next 3 years bc he is more valuable and versatile) but I bring all of this up b/c they hate on Cam and Lebron b/c they are arrogant but Curry is just as arrogant on the court as Cam is on the field and Lebron doesnt even come close to how arrogant Curry is

that ^ is the definition of a hater
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totally agree! the funny thing is those Lebron haters will say Curry is the best player in the league (which I think as well but I would still choose Lebron to start a franchise over the next 3 years bc he is more valuable and versatile) but I bring all of this up b/c they hate on Cam and Lebron b/c they are arrogant but Curry is just as arrogant on the court as Cam is on the field and Lebron doesnt even come close to how arrogant Curry is

that ^ is the definition of a hater
I made this point last night on Facebook. People destroy Cam for dancing and being "arrogant" but Curry celebrates a three by staring down a bench before the shot goes in and he's praised. The difference is Curry is a "family man" and Cam is billed as a thug.

Its ridiculous.
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Top 3 QB currently he wont be
People keep getting their teeth kicked in making these Cam predictions, so why do they continue to do it?
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You talking about this exact one? He made in 2012?
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You talking about this exact one? He made in 2012?

"Never" doesn't have an expiration date.

I wasn't sure if Cam would be top 3 but I wouldn't have said never. I called him top 10 right before he got his extension and I got raked over the coals in that thread.
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