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Old 01-02-2013, 09:13 AM   #41
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Ron Cherry isn't that bad, and that's awful when you're worse than Ron Cherry.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:15 AM   #42
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Was there anyone AT the game who can answer the question? Why was Ace flagged?
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:06 AM   #43
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Was there anyone AT the game who can answer the question? Why was Ace flagged?
Someone several posts back texted relatives at the game and were told "excessive celebration".

Makes sense - they're a Big East crew and anyone scoring 2 TD's in any game is guilty of excessive celebration in the Big LEast. Boise got wind of that rule and backed out of their commitment...
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:06 AM   #44
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Default Re: Why was Ace flagged?

That group that did the game was a band of idiots... When the 9 year old behind me knew when during a kickoff that goes out of bounds, you place the ball at the 35 yard line... It took those morons a good 2 minutes to huddle and move the ball back 5 yards... but then again, not really surprising since Michigan only had to go 9.9 yards for a first down...
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Default Re: Why was Ace flagged?

You can't make up for 3-4 horrible calls with a few holds/facemasks.

Why was the Clowney ff reviewed anyway? It was a clear handoff, RB dies, clowney walks away with the football.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:17 PM   #46
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You can't make up for 3-4 horrible calls with a few holds/facemasks.

Why was the Clowney ff reviewed anyway? It was a clear handoff, RB dies, clowney walks away with the football.
By rule, they review all turnovers. Shouldn't have taken as long as it did to see that it was a clean play though. Then again, as everyone has pointed out, those refs were incompetent.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:24 PM   #47
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You can't make up for 3-4 horrible calls with a few holds/facemasks.

Why was the Clowney ff reviewed anyway? It was a clear handoff, RB dies, clowney walks away with the football.
From the Michigan boards it sounded like they were reviewing to make sure that the ball was out before his helmet came off. By rule is play is dead when the ball carriers helmet comes off. Not sure though.
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That play was dead before the snap.
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From the Michigan boards it sounded like they were reviewing to make sure that the ball was out before his helmet came off. By rule is play is dead when the ball carriers helmet comes off. Not sure though.
I thought they looked at all turnovers but didn't have to have an official booth review.

I would have ripped my TV off the wall if they would have negated the fumble because of the helmet flying off.
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I thought they looked at all turnovers but didn't have to have an official booth review.

I would have ripped my TV off the wall if they would have negated the fumble because of the helmet flying off.
After that BS first down call, if they had negated the fumble, I would've been ok with Spurrier saying "Okay boys, let's pack it up." I mean what's the point of playing if the refs aren't going to follow the rules and actively make you lose a game?
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Default Re: Why was Ace flagged?

I believe the flag was for excessive celebration. Half of the team ran into the endzone and was jumping around back there and celebrating with our fans behind that endzone. They just must have called it on Ace because he was back there and they wanted to call it on someone and he's the one who made the play soooo... yeah. Honestly, the celebration was a bit excessive with 8 minutes left in the game.
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From the Michigan boards it sounded like they were reviewing to make sure that the ball was out before his helmet came off. By rule is play is dead when the ball carriers helmet comes off. Not sure though.
My TV would be in the woods, right now, if that had occurred.
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From the Michigan boards it sounded like they were reviewing to make sure that the ball was out before his helmet came off. By rule is play is dead when the ball carriers helmet comes off. Not sure though.
The ball carrier never even had possession of the ball. The RB saw Clowney coming unblocked before the ball was to be handed off. He never had possession of the ball as he muffed it with Clowney coming in the corner of his eye. Therefore, the play could not have been called dead because he never had possession. If you look at the play in slow motion, all of what I said is quite obvious.
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By rule, they review all turnovers. Shouldn't have taken as long as it did to see that it was a clean play though. Then again, as everyone has pointed out, those refs were incompetent.
i figured it was to see whether the ball needed to be spotted at the 27 or 30 yard line, i questioned whether his knee was down when he picked the ball up
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After that BS first down call, if they had negated the fumble, I would've been ok with Spurrier saying "Okay boys, let's pack it up." I mean what's the point of playing if the refs aren't going to follow the rules and actively make you lose a game?
That was my thought too, I said to my son-in-law we can't win if we have to play two teams, Team Michigan and Team Officials. I was wrong.
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