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Old 01-03-2013, 01:45 AM   #21
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You could never draft him if he sat out. He would always be a me first guy. Whats next he asks to sit out nfl games when it doesnt benefit him. A team would draft him but they would always have to cave to this sort of demand. Horrible idea
This, I think if he sat out it would make teams think he only plays when it matters to him.
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Has ANY player EVER done this?
Maurice Clarett... not intentionally, but still
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Old 01-03-2013, 05:46 AM   #23
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Dookie the don is going to smack every small minded child clean in the throat!

In other words, DIS CLOWNEYS YEAR BRUH!!
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:12 AM   #24
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players who take plays off get crucified, and you dont think abandoning your team would be a problem. theoretically i understand your point that he likely would still be the no.1 overall pick, but im glad he's not a pussycat, he's a gamecock
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Maurice Clarett... not intentionally, but still
And we all know how that turned out....
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This entire thread needs to die a quick death.

Better yet, send te OP's advice to Robert Nkemloogie. Since the Clemmers think he's better than Clowney, he can skip the next three years of college ball and get ready to be the #1 pick.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:09 AM   #27
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He can't win the Heisman if he sits out.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:34 AM   #28
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Not to mention JD is one of our biggest recruiting tools right now. The more exposure he gets, the more exposure we get. He's helping the team in more ways than just tackles and sacks, and killing little man babies.
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I know everyone will probably hate me for this, but take out that one play and the story maybe different. Clowney and everyone else has admitted he was playing tired and gassed in the first half. If he hadn't made 'the hit' I doubt anyone would actually be talking about him the days afterwards.

When he flips a switch he's a monster, and even when he's not making tackles he's effecting plays, but (and this is the kind of scary part) I still think he has several areas he can improve on just by bettering his conditioning and learning to play the run better.
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They said last night on Sportstalk that Lattimore said in an interview after the game that if Clowney was his son he was recommend he take off next season, get an agent and train. Thought that was an interesting comment.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:19 AM   #31
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I don't usually say this...but can we close this thread? I think everyone agrees that this is just a little crazy...
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:27 AM   #32
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I don't usually say this...but can we close this thread? I think everyone agrees that this is just a little crazy...
I know it seems crazy, but the only reason is that it's never happened before (at least on purpose). Teams have said they would have drafted Clowney out of high school, it's really not a horrible idea for him. It is for Gamecocks, but even if he never sees the field next year he would still be a top 5 pick easily.

I hate it, but it does make a little sense too.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:28 AM   #33
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They said last night on Sportstalk that Lattimore said in an interview after the game that if Clowney was his son he was recommend he take off next season, get an agent and train. Thought that was an interesting comment.
Lattimore is also speaking from the perspective of someone who has had torn ligaments in both knees. If he had never gotten injured, I'm sure he'd have a different take. While I love Latti, his opinion is not the best for this situation.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:28 AM   #34
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I know it seems crazy, but the only reason is that it's never happened before (at least on purpose). Teams have said they would have drafted Clowney out of high school, it's really not a horrible idea for him. It is for Gamecocks, but even if he never sees the field next year he would still be a top 5 pick easily.

I hate it, but it does make a little sense too.
It doesn't make any sense at all. He is a football player...he plays football..that's what he does...he plays football..you know because he is a football player.
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It doesn't make any sense at all. He is a football player...he plays football..that's what he does...he plays football..you know because he is a football player.
Exactly, football is his career, not a hobby. To take a year out, train with minimal risk of injury and a year to focus only on your personal growth, to start his lifetime goal makes a little sense. I'm not saying it's the best course but to discount it is a little flippant also.

I always like to relate this to other professions. If after two years of college you excelled enough for someone to say--you will go to a top law firm if you stay in college next year or not. Why not take a year to focus only on law and then start you career next year?
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Exactly, football is his career, not a hobby. To take a year out, train with minimal risk of injury and a year to focus only on your personal growth, to start his lifetime goal makes a little sense. I'm not saying it's the best course but to discount it is a little flippant also.

I always like to relate this to other professions. If after two years of college you excelled enough for someone to say--you will go to a top law firm if you stay in college next year or not. Why not take a year to focus only on law and then start you career next year?
Because that is not the way football players are wired. He is great because he plays football...like every year and stuff
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:55 AM   #37
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After yesterday, it would make more sense for Jadeveon Clowney to sit out a year and then declare for the draft in 2014. His draft status, after yesterday, cannot be improved upon so how would it behoove him to play his Junior season. The only way he can go now is down. DON"T GET ME WRONG, THIS NOT WHAT I WANT AT ALL!!! But the facts are the facts-Clowney's draft status cannot go any higher and IMO he puts too much on the line by playing his Junior season. He would be better off getting with one of these pro training outfits, take 2013 off and declare for the draft in 2014. Keep in mind, THIS IS NOT WHAT I WANT TO HAPPEN, it just makes sense for Clowney IMO. If I were in his shoes, that is what I would do.
OK, I am not really trying to be mean but this is quite possibly the stupidest thing I have ever seen on this site & I have seen a lot of stupidity.
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JD got mad when Coach Spurrier and Whammy too him out several times in the bowl game. He is not sitting out of anything. He has work to do. Bigger, stronger and smarter will improve him. You need to play the game, not train.
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Clarrett tried this at OSU. Thought he was the greatest thing to play the game. Dropped out and challenege the NFL rule. Lost it, and then flopped.

I think Clowney is ready for the league, but there's just things in games you can't mimic in a weight room. He didn't have great success against Lewan, so that shows he has more work cut out for him on the field. When he looks like he did in HS at Carolina ... then he has nothing else to prove.
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Clarrett tried this at OSU. Thought he was the greatest thing to play the game. Dropped out and challenege the NFL rule. Lost it, and then flopped.

I think Clowney is ready for the league, but there's just things in games you can't mimic in a weight room. He didn't have great success against Lewan, so that shows he has more work cut out for him on the field. When he looks like he did in HS at Carolina ... then he has nothing else to prove.
To be fair, I think he did OK against Lewan, it was the double teams that got him. Also, was it just me or is Lewan one of the dirtiest Offensive linemen we have seen. Grabbing Facemasks, Grabbing hair, holding, horse collaring etc....
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