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Old 01-03-2013, 05:06 PM   #41
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Our talented young receivers need to use the off season to get as many balls thrown to them as possible. The only way to get better is to work harder than the other guys defending you and concentrate on catching everything that you can get your fingers on. All the speed in the world ain't worth a flip if you cannot hold on to the ball. We have enough QB's to work with these young guys over the summer and hopefully we will have a good turn out.
hopefully, our qb's can get the attention of our young receivers and these guys will take it upon themselves to get better. these guys have potential - do they have the heart? GO COCKS!!!
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Old 01-03-2013, 05:14 PM   #42
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I'll use a couple recent comparisons.

After D.L Moore's big time play against Georgia, would you have beat your chest against anyone who had an objective view of him?

Or Jason Barnes- he had a handful of big time catches where the fan base was SURE he was going to become the receiver we wanted him to be.

The point is you cannot jump to conclusions about a player after one play, good or bad. He has a lot of potential and can still develop, but is too inconsistent right now.
Man, you like to win an argument. You just picked the two most crystal-clear examples of the point your are trying to make. Points to you, man!

(I don't know how anyone could argue with your point after those two examples)

I always thought Jason was going to be the next big thing... Boy, was I wrong.

And DL? I won't even say what I'm thinking. There might be children trolling on this board.
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I understand the point of the thread, and I'm a huge Byrd fan. HOWEVER, if you look at that play from the endzone. He catches that ball against his left shoulder pad NOT in his hands like he should. The ball actually hits his pads first and he pins it against them. That ball was just a hair away from being a drop.

He caught it, so I'm as happy as everyone else, but this is probably not the best example to prove your point.
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His pass patterns aren't much either.
Who cares?? He's got "world class speed." Just let him run the deep post or the fly and stretch the D. "I don't think you can't out throw Byrd...."
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I understand the point of the thread, and I'm a huge Byrd fan. HOWEVER, if you look at that play from the endzone. He catches that ball against his left shoulder pad NOT in his hands like he should. The ball actually hits his pads first and he pins it against them. That ball was just a hair away from being a drop.

He caught it, so I'm as happy as everyone else, but this is probably not the best example to prove your point.
I think that's because the ball was slightly underthrown and he had to slow down to make the catch, all the while anticipating the UM DB catching up and making contact. He was making a defensive catch maybe? IDK
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Default Re: Yeah, he can't catch

Straight talk: Byrd has tons of speed. I was a huge supporter of his pre-season, and my expectations were not met. An honest analysis tells me he has a ton of potential, but hasn't come to fruition yet. Honestly, I think Shaw at QB holds him back. He's got the speed to get down the field and needs to be hit in stride. The play you reference he was under-thrown again. With DT playing more, I think it will help Byrd reach his potential.

Byrd needs better hands also. His catching technique needs work. I remember in 2011 vs ECU Byrd had one go through his hands that he dropped from Shaw. I think he's got the speed to make highlands like I see from west coast teams. I'd just love to see it happen in stride. Not wait and fight for an under-thrown ball. I think DT or Nosovich could really help Byrd's stats next year (and Ace, if he comes back).
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Default Re: Yeah, he can't catch

Byrd has very good hands. That ball was underthrown, and he was fighting a defender to get it. Byrd made some circus catches in the spring, his hands are not the problem. I think he starts thinking while the ball is in the air, and just needs more reps and confidence. The one that hit him in the head, and the one to Jones were balls where both receivers were looking right into the sun. Byrd will be a very good receiver before he graduates.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:52 PM   #49
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Straight talk: Byrd has tons of speed. I was a huge supporter of his pre-season, and my expectations were not met. An honest analysis tells me he has a ton of potential, but hasn't come to fruition yet. Honestly, I think Shaw at QB holds him back. He's got the speed to get down the field and needs to be hit in stride. The play you reference he was under-thrown again. With DT playing more, I think it will help Byrd reach his potential.

Byrd needs better hands also. His catching technique needs work. I remember in 2011 vs ECU Byrd had one go through his hands that he dropped from Shaw. I think he's got the speed to make highlands like I see from west coast teams. I'd just love to see it happen in stride. Not wait and fight for an under-thrown ball. I think DT or Nosovich could really help Byrd's stats next year (and Ace, if he comes back).
Byrd did not play against ECU in 2011. He was suspended the first 4 games. We played ECU the first game of the 2011 season.
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Default Re: Yeah, he can't catch

Love it that Connor didn't overthrow the deep ball. Geez give the guys chance. Hate it when they throw fades into the stands or post patters and 9 routes 10 yards over their heads. I know it happens. But that is one of the many frustrating things about that Florida game. Still only down 7-3 and I can remember him overthrowing at least 3 deep balls.

Oh well, still love Connor. He's as tough as nails. And he's a winner. All I care about when it's over.
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Old 01-03-2013, 08:38 PM   #51
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Byrd's receiving skills has greatly improved since he has arrived here. I mean, damn he is a track star that has become a WR. He has done all we can ask from him and then some. Especially on Special Teams.

It's sad how many threads there have been about DB and his skills as a receiver. Anyhoo, bottom line...The Byrd man has skills.
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Byrd did not play against ECU in 2011. He was suspended the first 4 games. We played ECU the first game of the 2011 season.
Who am I thinking of? In the first quarter, I distinctly remember 2 of Shaw's missed passes. 1 Should of been pass interference, the other was to a speedster that went straight through his hands?

I remember telling everyone - mark it down, Shaw is a better down field passer than Garcia. Kind of funny to think back on, because I'm saying the same thing about DT now.
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We need to work our receivers like LSU said they did theres. Get a ball machine out there and have them catch 100 balls a day. That's the only way to get better.
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With that said ... I'm just glad the days of Troy Williamson and cast are gone. We averaged just shy of 10 drops a game back then.
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Who am I thinking of? In the first quarter, I distinctly remember 2 of Shaw's missed passes. 1 Should of been pass interference, the other was to a speedster that went straight through his hands?

I remember telling everyone - mark it down, Shaw is a better down field passer than Garcia. Kind of funny to think back on, because I'm saying the same thing about DT now.
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Shit, we give up on coaches within 5 years.

Before Spurrier, we used to chase coaches off after 3 or 4 years.
So you're saying we should've kept Brad Scott?
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I think it speaks volumes about a receiver that we have to have a thread that points out he can actually catch a football.
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I think it speaks volumes about a receiver that we have to have a thread that points out he can actually catch a football.
I was thinking it spoke volumes about our fan base...
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I think it speaks volumes about a receiver that we have to have a thread that points out he can actually catch a football.
I think it says more about the fans
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Most objective observers would concede he has struggled with the hands. He improved a lot this season over last, but has a lot more room to improve. Even if he never catches another ball, he's earned his scholarship from special teams play.
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