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![]() About 50/50 .. I watched a few old USC games from when Spurrier first came here and we were undercenter quite a bit .. a lot more than we are now.
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![]() I guess it will be zone-read until a QB that is not a zone-read QB wins the job. Shaw is definitely zone-read. Thompson and Noso could go either way. Mitch is definitely not a dual threat.
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![]() He is talking about Drew Barker who USC is in good shape for.
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![]() For the 100th time...zone-read is a play, not an offense. Dual threat guys may never run a zone-read or any other kind of option play. They are guys who are a threat to take off and make plays with their legs. Lots of teams run QB draws or designed roll-out options...throw/run.
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Check out around the 00:57 mark of the Oregon/K-state game. The QB can either hand it off, keep it and throw down the field, or throw it to the RB which he did. http://youtu.be/fDPh9CBLj0U I also remember reading that Chip Kelly likes and goes after QBs who have great pocket awareness and can make all the throws. He wants a kid who is a QB first but then that kid has to be athletic enough to run, escape, extend plays and run the zone read. In other words, not a Nesbitt run first type of player. |
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![]() Well the blockers have to know what to do...if you look at the Oregon TD play @ 00:57 mark, they set up as pass blockers...so the play is a pass first play with the wheel route added. Good looking play...wish we ran that. I'd love for our coaches to borrow some Duck plays...I love their offense.
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The zone read concept is used to negate a defender that is difficult to block by reading him. Usually that defender is a defensive end, however occasionally it will be a linebacker, or even a defensive tackle. The offense that you were referring to is the spread option. There are several variations of the spread option. One variation is the spread option ran by Urban Meyer. Another variation is the Flexbone, which is ran by Paul Johnson. |
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I mean - You're definitely right. It's Rich-Rod's baby. Also - It's not an entire offense on its own... but it very heavily colors how we script/game-plan for a game. I call us a "zone read" offense because we are (or at least, have been. Which is the point of this thread...) recruiting players better suited to run the zone-read and a variety of variations on it. We've been hunting for Dual-Threat QBs for the past 3 years because part of our current offense is built around involving the QB in the run game. At the moment, we're doing that in two ways: A) - Zone Read B) - QB Draws I dont think B will ever go away (I hope it doesnt! That 3rd and 20 against Clemson was the stuff of LEGENDS). The question is about A... |
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Our coaches would probably never run a zone-read play if they didn't have to. We run the zone-read mostly because Connor is a big threat with it and it friggin works. Got any idea how many times we ran the zone-read v. CU with Dylan? That QB draw up the middle is just as good a play for us...Dylan killed the taters with it. That's been in our offense since SOS got here and even before that. As far as RBs...we definitely want guys who can read and react...this is what Marcus excels at. We want guys with vision to see the field and find the open spots & running lanes. |
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![]() one point that i haven't seen mentioned yet, and feel is an extremely important part of the discussion is people's unrealistic expectations for this ol. of course we all wanted them to be spectacular this season, because we know how talented they are. but the fact is that they were extremely young. we are talking several players in the unit who were starting for the first time in their careers. guys who were rs freshmen, sophomores and first time guys. then matulis was lost to the shoulder. it is the hardest thing for a fanbase to accept, but it takes time to build a truly great ol, especially when they are almost all sophomores and freshmen. i expect a serious improvement next season, but the season after that is when they should be dominant.
the running game will build right along with them, as will the qb's production.
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We don't have a QB controversy. We know both must play so there is no controversy. |
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