8th in AP Poll

[SpecOps Cock]

Why is renegade doc not banned yet. Ignorance is spewing all over this site with these clemmons fans

[MikeTrainNC8]

Originally Posted by renegade_doc

So why are you ahead of Florida?

We lost at THEIR house.. it was a tough road SEC game, had it been a home game we might have won.. we beat ya'll at your house, leaving ZERO doubt who the better and vastly superior team is. I can only imagine what the score would be had it been at Willy B

[Spurrier Fan]

Originally Posted by MikeTrainNC8

We lost at THEIR house.. it was a tough road SEC game, had it been a home game we might have won.. we beat ya'll at your house, leaving ZERO doubt who the better and vastly superior team is. I can only imagine what the score would be had it been at Willy B

Also, Florida got smoked in their last game of the season to a team ranked #21. A team's last game has a lasting impression on voters. I was hopeing South Carolina would jump Florida in the final polls. They finished ahead by one in the AP and three in the Coaches. That means Florida hasn't finished with a better record or ranked higher than South Carolina since 2009. Maybe not significant to most of you, but it is to me living in Florida.

[renegade_doc]

Originally Posted by Mick Chicken

3 loss team? No, it's probably because their 2 losses were games they lost, at two of the hardest places to play, back-to-back, at a time when both teams were playing well..and a complete beatdown of uga. But your 'ifs and woulds' scenario sounds really fun and i'm sure that helps you sleep better at night

I said USC, genius. As in Southern Cal. When non-South Carolina fans start referring to SCar as USC, we'll start calling them as such. Until then, it's South Carolina for you, pal.

You can edit your previous post if you want so you don't look so bad.

[OfficeLinebackerCock]

I don't see how ND can still be in the top 10. They got their heads handed to them by a pretty good (but not great) Alabama team last night. There is not a team in the top 10 that wouldn't beat them IMHO. I would have them around 11 or 12. Just shows how the "media" continues to rate teams according to where the "want them to be" rather than where they actually have earned the right to be. All the more reason to have a REAL playoff with 16 teams.

[renegade_doc]

Originally Posted by smoovecock

Jawja needs to be higher and South Carolina should too.....Vandy got the hose also...

Vandy was the 3rd highest ranked 4-loss team in the nation. Not bad considering only one of their 8 wins during the regular season was against a bowl-eligible team.....

[renegade_doc]

Originally Posted by MikeTrainNC8

We lost at THEIR house.. it was a tough road SEC game, had it been a home game we might have won.. we beat ya'll at your house, leaving ZERO doubt who the better and vastly superior team is. I can only imagine what the score would be had it been at Willy B

UF's bad showing in their bowl game is the one and only reason that SC is ranked higher than UF. Had UF won, they'd have been ranked 2nd in the nation. Therefore, the voters took absolutely NOTHING from your head-to-head game into effect when making that vote.

Just like had Thompson not made that TD pass in the last seconds of the game, Clemson would have been 3-4 spots ahead of SC in the final poll.

The final poll had more to do with the bowl results than the actual season (See: UGA being way ahead of SC in the final poll)

[Cocklover]

Originally Posted by renegade_doc

I said USC, genius. As in Southern Cal. When non-South Carolina fans start referring to SCar as USC, we'll start calling them as such. Until then, it's South Carolina for you, pal.

You can edit your previous post if you want so you don't look so bad.

Some of the national media guys are already referring South Carolina to USC...heard it a ton of times...we'll continue to say USC...it is what it is

[renegade_doc]

Originally Posted by OfficeLinebackerCock

I don't see how ND can still be in the top 10. They got their heads handed to them by a pretty good (but not great) Alabama team last night. There is not a team in the top 10 that wouldn't beat them IMHO. I would have them around 11 or 12. Just shows how the "media" continues to rate teams according to where the "want them to be" rather than where they actually have earned the right to be. All the more reason to have a REAL playoff with 16 teams.

If Bama isn't great, then who is? They're the best team in the SEC, so I guess every team in the SEC is "pretty good" at best.

A fan of an SEC team complaining about the media bias. Now that may be a first.

[Cocklover]

so #5 is being way ahead of #8...hmmmm....must be that Clemson logic

[renegade_doc]

Originally Posted by Cocklover

Some of the national media guys are already referring South Carolina to USC...heard it a ton of times...we'll continue to say USC...it is what it is

Well I've never heard it. Not calling you a liar, but I watch alot of ESPN and sports radio and have never heard national guys call South Carolina "USC". Not once. I'm sure a video wouldn't be too hard to procure if it's happened "a ton of times", though.

[renegade_doc]

Originally Posted by Cocklover

so #5 is being way ahead of #8...hmmmm....must be that Clemson logic

The distance between Georgia and SC (in terms of votes/points) is twice the distance from SC to Clemson

[Cocklover]

Originally Posted by renegade_doc

Well I've never heard it. Not calling you a liar, but I watch alot of ESPN and sports radio and have never heard national guys call South Carolina "USC". Not once. I'm sure a video wouldn't be too hard to procure if it's happened "a ton of times", though.

I've heard it a lot on the games I've watched and when they've talked about South Carolina on the radio...guess we're not watching the same thing...lol

[Cocklover]

Originally Posted by renegade_doc

The distance between Georgia and SC (in terms of votes/points) is twice the distance from SC to Clemson

oh how times have changed for the Carolina and Clemson fans...and i'm loving it

[renegade_doc]

Originally Posted by Cocklover

oh how times have changed for the Carolina and Clemson fans...and i'm loving it

I know. Both teams are finally seeing sustained success. Both teams are in the top 5 for most consecutive weeks ranked in the top 25.

[OfficeLinebackerCock]

Originally Posted by renegade_doc

If Bama isn't great, then who is? They're the best team in the SEC, so I guess every team in the SEC is "pretty good" at best.

A fan of an SEC team complaining about the media bias. Now that may be a first.

"Great" is a relative term and I mean that relative to some of Bama's past teams. This year's team was very good but I don't rank them quite as high as some of the their past powerhouses. Now, relative to everyone else, pretty damn good. So much for that.

As for media bias in ranking teams such as Oregon, USCwest, Notre Dame and other "histortically relevant" teams in the top ten simply because of their history and perhaps because of the number of media people that went to those schools; it definately plays into the rankings year in and year out. If you can't see that then we will just agree to disagree.

PS....there is no way on this side of Hell that ND should have been in the top 5 and Bama showed that in spades. A REAL playoff with 16 teams will resolve this issue and take the writers and so called "experts" pretty much out of the equation.

[imabeastonu]

Originally Posted by renegade_doc

UF's bad showing in their bowl game is the one and only reason that SC is ranked higher than UF. Had UF won, they'd have been ranked 2nd in the nation. Therefore, the voters took absolutely NOTHING from your head-to-head game into effect when making that vote.

Just like had Thompson not made that TD pass in the last seconds of the game, Clemson would have been 3-4 spots ahead of SC in the final poll.

The final poll had more to do with the bowl results than the actual season (See: UGA being way ahead of SC in the final poll)

this whole post is shoulda, woulda, coulda. the final poll is the most important poll of the seasn and that is that. how else can you rate how each teams season went? lol

[GamecockInHell]

Originally Posted by renegade_doc

UF's bad showing in their bowl game is the one and only reason that SC is ranked higher than UF. Had UF won, they'd have been ranked 2nd in the nation. Therefore, the voters took absolutely NOTHING from your head-to-head game into effect when making that vote.

Just like had Thompson not made that TD pass in the last seconds of the game, Clemson would have been 3-4 spots ahead of SC in the final poll.

The final poll had more to do with the bowl results than the actual season (See: UGA being way ahead of SC in the final poll)

Just as if LSU had lined up and run the ball twice at the end instead of throwing it twice and stopping the clock klimpsun probably wouldn't have even been ranked in the top 15 or 20. Both teams made the plays to win and if "if and buts were candies and nuts....."

[renegade_doc]

Originally Posted by GamecockInHell

Just as if LSU had lined up and run the ball twice at the end instead of throwing it twice and stopping the clock klimpsun probably wouldn't have even been ranked in the top 15 or 20. Both teams made the plays to win and if "if and buts were candies and nuts....."

LSU had been stopped on 3rd and 2 or less 3 times earlier in the half. Perhaps that played into their decision. All that would've done is make Clemson use the timeouts, but they had all the time in the world on that drive. Regardless, it's the "butterfly effect". Clemson could have maybe scored a TD instead of a FG because everything gets changed in that situation. One thing is for sure is that they wouldn't have been in a 4th and 16 situation.

The point I was making was that the relative final rankings were due SOLELY to bowl outcomes, which in SC and CU's case were semi-miraculous comebacks. Therefore, to use the final rankings as a "team x is better than team y" statement is pointless as it was just 1 game separated from the regular season. Clemson could've very easily been ranked higher than SC in the final rankings. Just like SC could have very easily been ranked 10-12 spots ahead of Clemson. In the end, both teams moved up slightly from preseason. Clemson moreso, but we're splitting hairs.

[sodacitynate]

lol@UF ahead of Louisville. I can't believe we lost to that team, but that's what happens when you put the ball on the ground 3 times in 1 half (in the red zone, at that).