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Old 01-16-2013, 03:48 PM   #41
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Default Re: Options at Punt Returner

Someone needs to research Ronnie Martin. I don't know whether it was punts or kickoff returns. But, in high school, he had 930 total return yards and scored 4 touchdowns on returns. Ran track in high school and is fast.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:26 PM   #42
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It's not the end of the world at all we can replace him at WR and last year Ace wasn't that great of a punt returner and we still had a GREAT season we can live with a guy who just catches the punt and gets a few yards. Although, I think Pharoh Cooper could be a great one.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:46 PM   #43
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It's not the end of the world at all we can replace him at WR and last year Ace wasn't that great of a punt returner and we still had a GREAT season we can live with a guy who just catches the punt and gets a few yards. Although, I think Pharoh Cooper could be a great one.
....What? not a great punt returner? When was the last time we had ANYBODY that could return kicks like that?
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:56 PM   #44
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....What? not a great punt returner? When was the last time we had ANYBODY that could return kicks like that?
We still have someone in Bruce Ellington who can return kicks like Ace. Ace returned every punt this year but 2 so we will see who steps up, Hampton returned the other 2 but I hope to see Pharoah start building his legend as a GAMECOCK next year returning punts.
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Default Re: Options at Punt Returner

I doubt we have a guy like Ace.
Not just speed, but the vision.

We do have options that can be dangerous.
Byrd, Christian, Hampton, Ellington.
Who is to say Shon Carson, or Jody Fuller, or even Shaq Roland can't return.

We have options...but punt return is where we will really see Ace's loss.
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? I think Byrd's hands are good enough to return punts, but I agree with a previous poster that he doesn't quite have the moves that Ace or Ellington does to be very effective as a return man.

so, I return your FAIL, with a DOUBLE FAIL! Take that.
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But seriously, to those saying "so and so was a good returner in HS", that means absolutely nothing. Most D1 athletes return punts in HS, because they're D1 athletes!
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Default Re: Options at Punt Returner

Ace will be missed and was an electric returner. That being said we have a couple guys that can/will grow into the role when it becomes theirs.

Ellington, Hampton, Carson, Christian or Byrd
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I doubt we have a guy like Ace.
Not just speed, but the vision.

We do have options that can be dangerous.
Byrd, Christian, Hampton, Ellington.
Who is to say Shon Carson, or Jody Fuller, or even Shaq Roland can't return.

We have options...but punt return is where we will really see Ace's loss.
He returned a grand total of 2 kicks in his entire career, so yeah his loss will be returning punts and his yards after the catch. Bruce Ellington will be a beast next year in the kick return game and yards after the catch.
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Default Re: Options at Punt Returner

I think we have plenty that can take the punt return job over next year ....will they be Ace??/ no ,but several options are out there !! Got to see Pharoh Cooper in the shrine game and kid was pretty solid on all punt returns !!!
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I think we have plenty that can take the punt return job over next year ....will they be Ace??/ no ,but several options are out there !! Got to see Pharoh Cooper in the shrine game and kid was pretty solid on all punt returns !!!
This is my sleeper pick. (Assuming he's able to translate that talent to SEC-level comp.)
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:42 PM   #52
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Default Re: Options at Punt Returner

Some of these players you guys are listing don't have the shake to be a PR. Ellington, Jones, Fuller, Byrd, Roland, Martin, etc.

Its going to be Victor Hampton if he improves his ball handling.

Ahmad Christian, Shon Carson, Pharoh Cooper, etc would be good options as well.

You need a guy that can make the first defender miss and those 4 can do that.
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I'm not sure he'll be ready as a freshman, but I've thought for awhile that Cooper's open-field moves were reminiscent of Ace coming out of high school, but not quite at that level.
I still distinctly recall C2 raving about how electric Ace as a prospect and how much he wanted him on our team. Good call there man!
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:21 PM   #55
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Some of these players you guys are listing don't have the shake to be a PR. Ellington, Jones, Fuller, Byrd, Roland, Martin, etc.

Its going to be Victor Hampton if he improves his ball handling.

Ahmad Christian, Shon Carson, Pharoh Cooper, etc would be good options as well.

You need a guy that can make the first defender miss and those 4 can do that.
You know your stuff, I know that, C2. But Ellington does have some moves, no doubt about that. And he's quick from the start. I think he will hold it down until someone else takes over permanently or he starts having Ace-esque returns and becomes the man himself. Like Ace, Bruce could dramatically improve his NFL stock by becoming one of the best PR men in the SEC. Ace created a lot of great returns, but our blocking was excellent most of the time. Our special teams coach seems to know a thing or two about returning punts.
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Bruce has the most football wiggle out of what remains from what I have seen. We are going to miss Ace but Bruce is more than capable of anywhere on the field he is utilized. I have always loved this kid.
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It will be interesting to see if anyone has the ability to shift gears and direction like Ace. It is not just good enough to be able to see the creases and holes you have to be able to get there.
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Bruce has the best hands on the team. The new special teams coach really developed Ace this past season. You can't coach speed, but you can teach following blockers.
Byrd is the fastest. Seeing him run down guys is spectacular.
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