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Old 01-18-2013, 12:41 PM   #541
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The simplest explanation tends to be the truth.

Te'o faked this crap for publicity and Clowney and Jones had to take the backseat to this dummy.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:53 PM   #542
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Naive? Where did I say he was Naive?
I believe he knew about this all along.
Maybe someone duped him for a short time, but I believe he was behind this fully. That he created it for his own personal gain.
Honestly it just seems like a selfish way to get the media on him. Sure a bit more extreme than what we see in the NFL, but I don't think NFL teams are going to draft this guy to be a leader from Day 1

From the looks of posts I feel like some people are thinking this would kill his NFL dreams totally or put him as a late round pick. I don't believe that.
Sure he'll probably go out of the top 10 (I think he'll do bad at the combine)
But I still think a team takes him in the first.
I said he was naive based on the explanation that he was duped. Based on the explanation ND and Te'o gave, I said it's one thing to be naive. However, with the stories he told (i.e. all the stuff that happened at her age), he would have to be incredibly stupid and not just naive. My point was you can't claim to be naive AND that incredibly stupid. That's why I think there was more to it.
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Someone mentioned a movie has to be made about this, that got me to thinking. What would be the theme song? Here are a few suggestions. Feell free to add yous.

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Someone mentioned a movie has to be made about this, that got me to thinking. What would be the theme song? Here are a few suggestions. Feell free to add yous.

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Old 01-18-2013, 01:09 PM   #545
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I said he was naive based on the explanation that he was duped. Based on the explanation ND and Te'o gave, I said it's one thing to be naive. However, with the stories he told (i.e. all the stuff that happened at her age), he would have to be incredibly stupid and not just naive. My point was you can't claim to be naive AND that incredibly stupid. That's why I think there was more to it.
I'd like to say yea, but I think you're giving people too much credit.
If we didn't have a website like deadspin this would have gone further.
Because none of the major media outlets even bothered to look.
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Wow. Roth's story is CRAZY.

I seriously wonder about humans from time to time.
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I'd like to say yea, but I think you're giving people too much credit.
If we didn't have a website like deadspin this would have gone further.
Because none of the major media outlets even bothered to look.
No, I think this is more than just being naive. I am just saying that if you believe ND's and Te'os explanation that it was a hox he wasn't aware of, the facts say that he is beyond naive - he is incredibly stupid. That's why their explanation doesn't fly. No one can be that naive AND stupid enough to believe all the stuff that Te'o said about the girl.

I think he knew. To what extent and when is the question but he lied, played along, and misled people for his own gain. Just a question of when did it start.
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She didn't die. She faked her death, when into witness protection, and started going out with this guy.
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No, I think this is more than just being naive. I am just saying that if you believe ND's and Te'os explanation that it was a hox he wasn't aware of, the facts say that he is beyond naive - he is incredibly stupid. That's why their explanation doesn't fly. No one can be that naive AND stupid enough to believe all the stuff that Te'o said about the girl.

I think he knew. To what extent and when is the question but he lied, played along, and misled people for his own gain. Just a question of when did it start.
I agree with you; he was in on it, and there is no way one can convince me otherwise. I read on Twitter a few minutes ago that someone admitted to creating the Twitter handle and they said Te'o had no idea. Of course they are going to say he had no idea, because if the truth comes out that he had a part in it, you better believe he will slip far in the draft.
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That isnt neccesarily true. He thought she was dead..he met a girl at stanford and never saw ger again.. only chatted on phone or tweeted. that is the story..he was shocked in dec to get her phone call.
Don't be naive. Te'o was in on it. You can't be THAT stupid and go to Notre Dame.
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Occam's Razor

The simplest explanation tends to be the truth.

Te'o faked this crap for publicity and Clowney and Jones had to take the backseat to this dummy.
Boom goes the dynamite. Great post.
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I wonder how much ND paid this guy.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...irlfriend-hoax
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I wonder how much ND paid this guy.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...irlfriend-hoax
I bet at least an easy $100,000 will do. Considering Te'o is a friend of his, and he doesn't want to see his friend lose money if the truth came out.
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I bet at least an easy $100,000 will do. Considering Te'o is a friend of his, and he doesn't want to see his friend lose money if the truth came out.
Damn only 100?

If I had this information I would ask for atleast 7 figures
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I wonder how much ND paid this guy.

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Or he simply wanted to get to Diane O'Meara but didn't have the nuts to contact her. So he simply drummed up all this nonsense so that she would eventually come out the wood works and then he'd go from there.

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I love how ESPN is now calling lying "embellishing" now. Like that is supposed to make it better. Embellishing is when you add or leave out minor details to make a story look a certain way. Continuing to insist on the existence of a fake girlfriend you know does not exist is not a minor detail. It's lying.
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This is sort of funny, SIAP:

http://www.headingfortheexits.com/hf...-lennay-kekua/
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I wonder how much ND paid this guy.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...irlfriend-hoax
So according to this and the words of his teammates, Manti really did believe the hoax and apparently is that stupid to believe all the stuff that was told him (which was near impossible to believe).

With that said, he is still a liar because he continued to tell the story even after he knew it was a hoax.
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Damn only 100?

If I had this information I would ask for atleast 7 figures
Yea, probably so. Didn't the guy who shot the Michael Phelps picture collect $1,000,000 for it?
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