The 2013 Graveyard Thread

[garnet_black215]

Originally Posted by Tailfeathers

Senat will commit if he is allowed.

Any reason why he wouldn't be, especially since it seems like we may not be getting K. Bryant? Numbers issue?

[MikeTrainNC8]

Oh I love our current CB's, Cooper should play on offense IMO though, so explosive! And is Christian for sure not playing baseball FT?

What I mean is for the future (after Vic, Legree, etc are gone), not next year.. In the past, our DB's were a weak spot IMO, missing tackles, getting burnt, etc., due to a lack of talent and no lock down corner. Our LB situation is in this mess due to not putting a priority on getting good talent there (which looks like it'll be fixed wit this class), and I just don't want to see that happen at the CB position.. we won't always have a dominant pass rush. I know in the recent past, our best CBs came from in state. From what I've seen, there hasn't been a top CB recruit in this state since Vic, and there isn't one for next year either.

Yet a year after putting a CB top 10 in the draft, only a few top CBs have given us a look, and two are UGA bound (when they haven't put a CB in the 1st round since Champ Bailey IIRC). That's my main issue, we should be one of the most appealing schools to a top CB, yet are not.

I see Elder as a future star at safety FWIW.

I agree that 2014 should be a landmark recruiting year, but do we have any big CBs that favor us or we have a good shot at? Like I said, there isn't much big time talent instate at that position.

Lastly, Just to build on what you said about coaches and relationships- how much does Quinn leaving Fla hurt them? And are there any potential switches that could favor us?

[MikeTrainNC8]

Originally Posted by LegalCock

Damn right.

Getting our quota is different than getting our top targets, unless I'm reading that wrong

[HeadCockFan]

I like that all our DBs seem to get better with time. Before Spurrier got here, we'd have guys play lights out as freshmen and soph. then regress somehow and be pretty average as seniors.

Look at Legree and Hampton. They get better every year in the program. I'm not talking physical skills either. All of the guys C2 has listed can already run like the wind and have natural cat skills. I'm talking between the ear development. Legree is a new man. Hampton is a new man. I can't wait to see where Christian and Gurley and our young stable end up. We seem to be getting the most out of these kids. I was critical of our DB philosophy a few years ago under Whammy, but it seems things are really coming together of late. We lose Gilmore, and we just kept on chugging. We're not dominant or anything like that, but we seem to keep everything in front of us, not giving up anything too easy.

If there is a bone to pick next year, let's dissect the linebacking situation.

[Tailfeathers]

Originally Posted by garnet_black215

Any reason why he wouldn't be, especially since it seems like we may not be getting K. Bryant? Numbers issue?

With Hill and Bryant out I don't see any reason.

[USCBASEBALL1]

Originally Posted by MikeTrainNC8

Oh I love our current CB's, Cooper should play on offense IMO though, so explosive! And is Christian for sure not playing baseball FT?

What I mean is for the future (after Vic, Legree, etc are gone), not next year.. In the past, our DB's were a weak spot IMO, missing tackles, getting burnt, etc., due to a lack of talent and no lock down corner. Our LB situation is in this mess due to not putting a priority on getting good talent there (which looks like it'll be fixed wit this class), and I just don't want to see that happen at the CB position.. we won't always have a dominant pass rush. I know in the recent past, our best CBs came from in state. From what I've seen, there hasn't been a top CB recruit in this state since Vic, and there isn't one for next year either.

Yet a year after putting a CB top 10 in the draft, only a few top CBs have given us a look, and two are UGA bound (when they haven't put a CB in the 1st round since Champ Bailey IIRC). That's my main issue, we should be one of the most appealing schools to a top CB, yet are not.

I see Elder as a future star at safety FWIW.

I agree that 2014 should be a landmark recruiting year, but do we have any big CBs that favor us or we have a good shot at? Like I said, there isn't much big time talent instate at that position.

Lastly, Just to build on what you said about coaches and relationships- how much does Quinn leaving Fla hurt them? And are there any potential switches that could favor us?

What?

[MikeTrainNC8]

Originally Posted by USCBASEBALL1

What?

Sorry, didn't realize you could not read- In the past, our DB's were a weak spot IMO, missing tackles, getting burnt, etc

past= earlier in the HBC era.. I recall MANY MANY people upset about our secondary in years past.. not pulling that out of my a$$

[LegalCock]

Originally Posted by MikeTrainNC8

Getting our quota is different than getting our top targets, unless I'm reading that wrong

I thought last class was really strong on the DB's. The froshies lookededed good too before they got hurt. I'm really only worried about linebacker. Not saying I would turn down another gilmore. If they flip the kid from UGA then we've stacked two classes of DBs that I would rank among the best in my lifetime for us and brown is still settling in.

[b381l]

Originally Posted by MikeTrainNC8

Sorry, didn't realize you could not read- In the past, our DB's were a weak spot IMO, missing tackles, getting burnt, etc

past= earlier in the HBC era.. I recall MANY MANY people upset about our secondary in years past.. not pulling that out of my a$$

Of all our positions, we have done better with our DB than anything else in the NFL. Yes, we have had our issues, couple of years ago wasn't good, but I blame that on Ellis mostly having players playing out of position IMO.

[b381l]

Originally Posted by LegalCock

I thought last class was really strong on the DB's. The froshies lookededed good too before they got hurt. I'm really only worried about linebacker. Not saying I would turn down another gilmore. If they flip the kid from UGA then we've stacked two classes of DBs that I would rank among the best in my lifetime for us and brown is still settling in.

Yes.....consistency and keeping our coaching staff in place long term is huge......turnover is potentially a big problem.

[b381l]

Originally Posted by b381l

As of today, this is the list of 2013 targets coming in this weekend:
Keith Bryant DT (originally taking an OV to Miami this weekend)
Skai Moore LB
Yannick Ngakoue LB
Na'Ty Rodgers OL
Dreadrin Senat DT
Jonathon Walton LB (decomitted from Penn St yesterday)
As you can see, this is a very impressive list.

This is our big weekend. Of course, things could change, but these are the guys as of today. There will be other recruits from 2014 and some committed guys.
Magnus will be at Senat's high school this week trying to get MacKensie Alexander to come this weekend as well. They go to the same high school.
Per GCC.

The only one of these not coming is Bryant. TBS reporting yesterday that we have 22 OV available. We are using 18 this weekend and 4 next weekend......2 commits, Powell and 1 more recruit I can't recall.

[CoverTwo]

Ernest Robinson is scheduled to come next week as long as he hasn't changed his mind.

[USCBASEBALL1]

Originally Posted by MikeTrainNC8

Sorry, didn't realize you could not read- In the past, our DB's were a weak spot IMO, missing tackles, getting burnt, etc

past= earlier in the HBC era.. I recall MANY MANY people upset about our secondary in years past.. not pulling that out of my a$$

Owe I read your joke. It was funny.

[rosstheboss]

Originally Posted by Garnet girl

Our current players need to use their story and charm this weekend. I saw a tweet from Shaq Wilson promoting our coaches and school. It is true we have many good things to offer. I hope everyone attends the basketball game. A good crowd would look nice.

THIS! Please come support the basketball team coming off a very nice win at LSU. Packing the CLA and being loud and supportive is one of the reasons we landed guys like Marcus, Jadeveon, etc...Plus, it should just be a great game to watch

[JDRAY^#]

Lattimore is tweeting all the recruits to get them to join gamecocknation

[USCremedy]

Originally Posted by EveryThingGreen

http://www.youtube.com/v/jZp-0wkZdoM


He plays bad competition, likely at a very small school in Alabama. However, I think the kid has some good size/speed and seems to be pretty athletic.

lol, go to 4:30 on that video..check out that defensive line. nose tackle is a BEAST

[usctiburon03]

I think I would prefer they just save the scholly rather than signing a guy just to "fill a need."

[garnet_black215]

If he wants to be here, I'd be more than happy to have him. The more depth, the better.

[Don Giovanni]

Recruiting him as a safety or corner?

[henmania]

Originally Posted by MikeTrainNC8

Oh I love our current CB's, Cooper should play on offense IMO though, so explosive! And is Christian for sure not playing baseball FT?

What I mean is for the future (after Vic, Legree, etc are gone), not next year.. In the past, our DB's were a weak spot IMO, missing tackles, getting burnt, etc., due to a lack of talent and no lock down corner. Our LB situation is in this mess due to not putting a priority on getting good talent there (which looks like it'll be fixed wit this class), and I just don't want to see that happen at the CB position.. we won't always have a dominant pass rush. I know in the recent past, our best CBs came from in state. From what I've seen, there hasn't been a top CB recruit in this state since Vic, and there isn't one for next year either.

Yet a year after putting a CB top 10 in the draft, only a few top CBs have given us a look, and two are UGA bound (when they haven't put a CB in the 1st round since Champ Bailey IIRC). That's my main issue, we should be one of the most appealing schools to a top CB, yet are not.

I see Elder as a future star at safety FWIW.

I agree that 2014 should be a landmark recruiting year, but do we have any big CBs that favor us or we have a good shot at? Like I said, there isn't much big time talent instate at that position.

Lastly, Just to build on what you said about coaches and relationships- how much does Quinn leaving Fla hurt them? And are there any potential switches that could favor us?

Man, our coaches know talent. My coaching friends in Ga said that Rico McWilliams and Elder were the best DBs in GA last year, forget about the ratings. TJ Gurley is a baller. Ronnie Martin is a baller. We have tons of talent so don't get your knickers in a wad. We are doing fine.