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Old 01-30-2013, 10:11 AM   #61
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It's 2013, and I just found this tread...Since I am no longer employed with ISP (now IMG College), I can share the TRUTH....Its amazing the falsehoods uninformed people make when simply ready a 3-paragraph story from the State.

The Wilder Brothers approached ISP in regards to thier "Cocky Cloth" idea. They WANTED to sell them and give some away. From DAY ONE, it was made clear to them the ISP SPorts is NOT IN THE RETAIL BUSINESS. They had previously sought the use of the school's logo through the Branding Office and were DECLINED...They came to ISP as another avenue to promote their cloths.

I said said, ISP Sports in not in the retail business. Thier role withing the athletics department is SELL SPONSORSHIPS! As the story states, "states the brothers were to negotiate with Barnes & Noble on a sales percentage", because "BARNES & NOBLE" not ISP controls in-stadium retail contracts. The contract with ISP was ONLY to promote the towels on the "matrix boards" and give 10,000 towels away in the student section for the last three games.

In short, these guys were NEVER given permission thru ISP Sports/Gamecock Sports Properties to SELL Towels. They were only granted the right to "Give Away" free towels, because it was a SPONSORSHIP CONTRACT, not a RETAIL CONTRACT.

The only "greediness" and "unprofessional-ism" in this situation, was when the WILDER BROTHERS didn't pay for the SPONSORSHIP CONTRACT they agreed to...The towels were distributed, and promoted as contracted.

I hope this sheds some light on the TRUTH....

I am a life-long Gamecock Fan, Columbia resident, an proud Alumnus, and I have nothing but love and respect for the Gamecock Athletics Department.
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And the corrupt shiftiness comes out lately! This now and letting Justice not get a freaking salt pill! C'mon
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And the corrupt shiftiness comes out lately! This now and letting Justice not get a freaking salt pill! C'mon
Um...the way I read it, it sounds like the creators of the Cocky Cloth didn't fully understand the roles of those they had placed expectations upon...
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:42 AM   #64
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It's 2013, and I just found this tread...Since I am no longer employed with ISP (now IMG College), I can share the TRUTH....Its amazing the falsehoods uninformed people make when simply ready a 3-paragraph story from the State.

The Wilder Brothers approached ISP in regards to thier "Cocky Cloth" idea. They WANTED to sell them and give some away. From DAY ONE, it was made clear to them the ISP SPorts is NOT IN THE RETAIL BUSINESS. They had previously sought the use of the school's logo through the Branding Office and were DECLINED...They came to ISP as another avenue to promote their cloths.

I said said, ISP Sports in not in the retail business. Thier role withing the athletics department is SELL SPONSORSHIPS! As the story states, "states the brothers were to negotiate with Barnes & Noble on a sales percentage", because "BARNES & NOBLE" not ISP controls in-stadium retail contracts. The contract with ISP was ONLY to promote the towels on the "matrix boards" and give 10,000 towels away in the student section for the last three games.

In short, these guys were NEVER given permission thru ISP Sports/Gamecock Sports Properties to SELL Towels. They were only granted the right to "Give Away" free towels, because it was a SPONSORSHIP CONTRACT, not a RETAIL CONTRACT.

The only "greediness" and "unprofessional-ism" in this situation, was when the WILDER BROTHERS didn't pay for the SPONSORSHIP CONTRACT they agreed to...The towels were distributed, and promoted as contracted.

I hope this sheds some light on the TRUTH....

I am a life-long Gamecock Fan, Columbia resident, an proud Alumnus, and I have nothing but love and respect for the Gamecock Athletics Department.
Is the case settled or something?
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Default Re: 'Cocky Cloth' creators sue USC

It is my understanding that USC Athletics settled with the Wilders to allow them to sell their towels, as long as a majority of the proceeds benefit a non-profit, (Shriners)...

I simply posted my side of the story. I have not been employed with ISP (now IMG) since 2010, when i left my position at the UMiami to take a small college job back in SC.

Someone mentioned to me about this Blog, and honestly, I had not seen it before, so i took a few minutes to shed some light on the situation, especially considering the large number of falsehoods being discussed as truth....

More for my own piece of mind than anything, since I was not asked to give a deposition....
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Crap-load of banning going on.

Going to be a good off-season.
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Yeah I'm not sure what he was saying there. Did someone get banned?
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I am not a lawyer but common sense tells you that if you don't get a deal in writing, you should not expect jack s*** in return.

Isn't the legal case pretty straightforward? If there is a contract that states the terms of a deal, and the school/ISP/GSP reneged on the terms, then damages are due. If not, then it's just a lot of hearsay and the Wilders don't have a case.

I am assuming that there is no contract and they are claiming that some verbal promises were made. Good luck with that in court. They must be hoping for a settlement if that is the situation.
You can have a verbal contract. All you need is and 1. offer 2. acceptance 3. consideration. 4. passes the statute of frauds and you have yourself an enforceable contract. It doesn't need to be in writing, but it helps when you are trying to sue.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:47 PM   #71
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I can confirm what Eric is saying is true
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Wasn't the creator the creepy guy that was at Rendezvous before the spring game a couple years ago? Got real drunk and started pissing everybody off?
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Wasn't the creator the creepy guy that was at Rendezvous before the spring game a couple years ago? Got real drunk and started pissing everybody off?
Nah - you're thinking of the guy from section 506...
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Crap-load of banning going on.

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Yep.... dont understand why the ban hammer is being thrown around.
But getting back on topic. It seems that all the details weren't laid out properly.
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Nah - you're thinking of the guy from section 506...
I'm serious. Pretty sure this guy was the originator. He was completely obnoxious and almost got his ass kicked like 8 times. Skinny guy with blonde hair if I remember correctly.
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Settle out of court for 50k, and get on with life!

Course now you never get anything free at WillyB again!
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Am I the only one that's not a big fan of the towels? I liked it better when people screamed, hit the bleachers or clapped more than waving a wash cloth around.
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Your crazy... the towels look great! Especially on tv


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Need towels. USC can foot that bill for the fans.
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