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Old 02-03-2013, 01:25 AM   #2401
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Jamarcus Russell was a starter for several years too, and I don't think anyone would call him a competent quarterback.
Point is still where is the Jamarcus Russell for SC? He was the first overall pick in the draft. Not saying he turned out well, but he still was a big time prospect out of college. You can bring up all the negatives you want about Tim Couch, Jamarcus Russell, etc....

but I am still wondering where is that guy for SC in the past 100+ years?

It isn't that big of a deal, it is just a comment I made because someone said KY was going to tell him he could be there "next Tim Couch." I just think is interesting that SC has never even had the first Tim Couch, regardless of how he did in the NFL. He still was a finalist for the Heisman in college. Kentucky also had George Blanda who is in the NFL Hall of Fame.

We haven't had a Tim Couch, Matt Ryan, Matt Schaub, Phillip Rivers, etc. I just find that interesting, thats all.

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This is the part that always bugs me being a Gamecock fan. Notice you said "next" Tim Couch. Hell, we haven't even had the first one. I can't believe we have been through 100+ years of football and the best we have to show for QBs in the NFL is Anthony Wright (no disrespect to Anthony Wright).

Kentucky - Tim Couch
Virginia - Matt Schaub
Boston freaking College - Matt Ryan
NC State - Phillip Rivers (and Mike Glennon will be there)

I could keep going down the list. The fact is that at most BCS level programs, you can find at least one guy that has gone on to be a proficient NFL QB. Hell, even Coastal Carolina had Tyler Thigpen.

Hard to believe that Boston College has a NFL starter and SC hasn't had at least one QB that we could really hang our hat on as far as a NFL guy. To me, that is pretty amazing (not in a good way) considering SC has been playing football for over 100 years.


Whose Alabama have?
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Whose Alabama have?
Is this a serious question?

Joe Namath, Bart Starr, Ken Stabler. Alabama has had more Superbowl winning QBs than any other college.

Others.....

Brodie Croyle went in 3rd round
Jay Barker went in 5th round
Greg McElroy went in 7th round
AJ McCarron projected to go in first round.

Again, my point is not that Brodie Croyle, etc made great NFL QBs. My point is that they were still NFL prospect QBs that were drafted well before anyone ever from SC has been.

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Is this a serious question?

Joe Namath, Bart Starr, Ken Stabler. Alabama has had more Superbowl winning QBs than any other college.

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Brodie Croyle went in 3rd round
Jay Barker went in 5th round
Greg McElroy went in 7th round
AJ McCarron projected to go in first round.

Again, my point is not that Brodie Croyle, etc made great NFL QBs. My point is that they were still NFL prospect QBs that were drafted well before anyone ever from SC has been.
I meant like recent good starting QB's...ya know.
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McElroy started the last 2 games for the Jets this year.
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Point is still where is the Jamarcus Russell for SC? He was the first overall pick in the draft. Not saying he turned out well, but he still was a big time prospect out of college. You can bring up all the negatives you want about Tim Couch, Jamarcus Russell, etc....

but I am still wondering where is that guy for SC in the past 100+ years?

It isn't that big of a deal, it is just a comment I made because someone said KY was going to tell him he could be there "next Tim Couch." I just think is interesting that SC has never even had the first Tim Couch, regardless of how he did in the NFL. He still was a finalist for the Heisman in college. Kentucky also had George Blanda who is in the NFL Hall of Fame.

We haven't had a Tim Couch, Matt Ryan, Matt Schaub, Phillip Rivers, etc. I just find that interesting, thats all.
Because of the guys you listed with him I thought you were saying QBs who were successful in the NFL. I understand where you're coming from now. We have not had a legit pro QB prospect because we have been mediocre for the majority of our history. Hopefully we will have one soon in Mitch or Barker, maybe even Thompson or Nosovitch (left Shaw out because I don't think he would be a QB if he got a shot in the NFL).
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Some people here appreciate getting tidbits of information. Whether you like it or not, SGF has given out some good info in the past...much more than you or some of the other naysayers here.

No one is going to be right every time with the whims of 17 and 18 year olds. But guys like you and some of the others attacked and ran off a good poster like Six Stars because a kid changed his mind.

If you don't like SGF's posts, don't read them. But there's no sense in attacking him and possibly shutting down a source of info for the readers here who appreciate it.
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Because of the guys you listed with him I thought you were saying QBs who were successful in the NFL. I understand where you're coming from now. We have not had a legit pro QB prospect because we have been mediocre for the majority of our history. Hopefully we will have one soon in Mitch or Barker, maybe even Thompson or Nosovitch (left Shaw out because I don't think he would be a QB if he got a shot in the NFL).
The part above that I bolded is the part that is interesting to me. You wouldn't call Boston College "mediocre?". They had Matt Ryan. What about Virginia? Matt Schaub. Kentucky?

Again, not a big deal. I am VERY HAPPY with where our program is now. So it is not a complaint. It is more of an observation. Most "mediocre" programs have still had at least one QB come through their system that was a high NFL draft prospect at some point.
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I meant like recent good starting QB's...ya know.
But my posts have nothing to do with "recently". In fact, that was the whole point of my post. That it is interesting in 100+ years of play that SC hasn't had one really good NFL prospect QB.

And even if you look at "recent," I think it is evident that Alabama has still proven my point. Jay Barker, Brody Croyle, Greg Mcelroy all were at least drafted. SC has had ZERO in that time frame.
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Some people here appreciate getting tidbits of information. Whether you like it or not, SGF has given out some good info in the past...much more than you or some of the other naysayers here.

No one is going to be right every time with the whims of 17 and 18 year olds. But guys like you and some of the others attacked and ran off a good poster like Six Stars because a kid changed his mind.

If you don't like SGF's posts, don't read them. But there's no sense in attacking him and possibly shutting down a source of info for the readers here who appreciate it.
I'm sorry, I have just noticed that his "tidbits" are wrong quite a bit.
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Some people here appreciate getting tidbits of information. Whether you like it or not, SGF has given out some good info in the past...much more than you or some of the other naysayers here.

No one is going to be right every time with the whims of 17 and 18 year olds. But guys like you and some of the others attacked and ran off a good poster like Six Stars because a kid changed his mind.

If you don't like SGF's posts, don't read them. But there's no sense in attacking him and possibly shutting down a source of info for the readers here who appreciate it.
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I'm sorry, I have just noticed that his "tidbits" are wrong quite a bit.

peterlemon, that is true. Add to the that he has been caught stretching the truth before (see: Louisville) and it becomes hard to believe him.

But we should not really put him down, we should just take what he says with a grain of salt and keep moving.

Also, I would not compare SGF and six stars. That is like saying the national enquirer and associated press are on the same level.
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peterlemon, that is true. Add to the that he has been caught stretching the truth before (see: Louisville) and it becomes hard to believe him.

But we should not really put him down, we should just take what he says with a grain of salt and keep moving.

Also, I would not compare SGF and six stars. That is like saying the national enquirer and associated press are on the same level.
Agreed.
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peterlemon, that is true. Add to the that he has been caught stretching the truth before (see: Louisville) and it becomes hard to believe him.

But we should not really put him down, we should just take what he says with a grain of salt and keep moving.

Also, I would not compare SGF and six stars. That is like saying the national enquirer and associated press are on the same level.
Then you two should start using the freaking ignore function on SGF and quit stirring the pot. You add nothing other than criticism and jealousy and it is annoying to read. If you continue to feel the need to criticize someone who tries to provide info on teenager's wishes, college recruiting is not for you. I wish that c2 would ban people who only criticize other payees from posting in the PG
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Then start using the freaking ignore function on SGF and quit stirring the pot. You add nothing other than criticism and jealousy and it is annoying to read. If you continue to feel the need to criticize someone who tries to provide info on teenager's wishes, college recruiting is not for you. I wish that c2 would ban people who only criticize other payees from posting in the PG
Yeah, preach on brother! Ban everybody who disagrees with your opinion.
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If Dabo was handling the recruitment of these guys, I guarantee that he would have gotten four - five commitments before they left campus. That is because he would have done the "We are family" cult brainwashing thingy/time share closing pitch hard sell on them. The same guys would have gotten away from the upstate and started thinking. "Gee, that place is in the middle of nowhere with nothing to do. If they are family, why is there no diversity and why do they have to talk so much about it so much to convince people? If they are really elite in football and academics, why doesn't anyone outside of their campus consider them to be elite? Why did the guy with the funny looking ears and name act so goofy and try to be a cheerleader?"

We do it the right way - we tell kids to go home and think about it before they commit, maybe even look around a little. It is a fact that we have fewer decommits than Clemson because of this approach. I think SGF is right - we probably did have some recruits ready to commit, and they may have even silently committed to the staff. Give it a few days, and some good news will start to filter out.
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BOT: Looking around at other SEC E schools, most only have about 4 commits at this point. I would be disappointed if we did not pick up a few over the next couple of weeks. SC is a treasure trove of talent this year, and I would expect us to lock some of these low hanging fruit early.

If we have kids that have dreamed of playing here, why wouldn't we lock them down early and get them to help recruit others. This recruiting class will be monumental for the continued success of this program. We need to bring in the next Clowney, Marcus, ect. The stars are aligned, we have the talent in our back yard, SOS should simply put on his best Bob Barker suit and udder the phrase: "Come on Down"
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Jealousy? Payees?

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If I recall, I believe we only had one commit on Junior Day last year and that was Gerald Turner.

Timing was interesting for this year's junior day. I don't think we ever had one days before NSD.

With so many recruits picking us as their clear leader, I really thought we may have a couple early commits, especially after looking at the list of 30+ recruits with offers coming into town.

We are hosting two more Junior days in the spring. Great time to get more recruits to the campus, take in spring practices and scrimmage game.
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