The 2013 Graveyard Thread

[b381l]

Originally Posted by EveryThingGreen

Walton/Moore, class over.

Not getting Yannick or Bryant.

ETG.....I'm assuming the FAU incident had nothing to do with your opinion.

[EveryThingGreen]

Originally Posted by b381l

ETG.....I'm assuming the FAU incident had nothing to do with your opinion.

Not at all. We gave him something to think about but this is a kid who has been a silent to FSU for well over a month.

[henmania]

Originally Posted by elcid99

Mom is from SC I believe. He is a beast, but I could live w/out the drama.

I will be shocked if we get him nothwithstanding the 60% comment.

[trapper82]

Originally Posted by MikeTrainNC8

Then why'd we say no to a talent like Powell if this were the case??

Good question, maybe we decided it is better to stay where we are for next year.

I know some general numbers thrown out there, but if we did get Moore to end the class, how many would we have that could early enroll next cycle?

[ReadR00ster]

Originally Posted by CoverTwo

Reports are that his family are sold on USC. The staff won them over and that is usually the thing that tips the scales. But Keith, on the otherhand, seems very hot & cold about USC. When he visits or talks to the coaches, it seems as though USC shoots up the list but once those visits and talks wear off, its back to what is more comfortable to him IMO .. an instate school. Just my observation.

He's got a lot of UM and FSU fans buttering him up. Not as much USC fans.

[Evilchicken2]

I could withstand a little drama if the talent is worth it.

I mean, remember it was Clowney who extended his decision until Valentine's Day to make sure he was the only one in the spotlight announcing his decision, which of course was fueled by ESPN. If he had picked Clemson or Bama, we would still be talking about what a prima donna he was. Now the dude's a legend.

I'll take a little drama. But with that said, I don't see Bryant here, or at least I'm not getting my hopes up.

[b381l]

Originally Posted by trapper82

Good question, maybe we decided it is better to stay where we are for next year.

I know some general numbers thrown out there, but if we did get Moore to end the class, how many would we have that could early enroll next cycle?

I think we would have 1 to carry over, but we may not end up signing everyone because of academics.....I've read where it could be as much as 3, but of course nobody knows at this point.

[b381l]

Clowney has been a model student athlete since he's been here.

[b381l]

Originally Posted by Evilchicken2

Agreed! This is one of those Ho-hum speed bump recruiting years. I like the dudes we got, but it just FEELS blah.

This is a really good class, best in the last 4 years according to a poster in another thread. Check his numbers. I know Rolin and Langley left, but this class is solid IMO.

[Cocks and Canes]

Originally Posted by b381l

This is a really good class, best in the last 4 years according to a poster in another thread. Check his numbers. I know Rolin and Langley left, but this class is solid IMO.

You're wasting your time b381l, that poster has proven several times that he does not understand what constitutes a good class

[sc455]

gtho if you think we should have top ten classes every year. i am excstatic with a class in the top 20. our coaches are that good.

[CockTail]

If you think we should be a top 5 ranked team in the polls, why would you not think we should be top 5 in recruiting?

We have great players in this class. I just think we should have 4 or 5 more of them.

[trapper82]

Originally Posted by CockTail

If you think we should be a top 5 ranked team in the polls, why would you not think we should be top 5 in recruiting?

We have great players in this class. I just think we should have 4 or 5 more of them.

Because we have major disadvantages to overcome against the teams that are in the top 5 in recruiting every year, and when you have a down year of in-state talent in South Carolina to add on top of it, this is a great class.

[cofcgamecock9]

Originally Posted by ReadR00ster

No one is attacking him. All I ever said is that I prefer guys that have competing for championships in college as a higher priority. If he is cool with hanging with his friends wininng no more than 7 games a year and then going to the NFL, than fine, see ya.

Isn't this all relative? So you aren't very high on Yannick because he wants to go to Maryland and one of your main reasons is because you want guys that really want to compete for championships. And that he should be willing to leave home if he is serious about championships.

But then, in a relative sense, wouldn't that mean that Gilmore, Lattimore, etc should have gone to Alabama or somewhere like that? Now I know you are going to say "but we are working towards competing for a championship," etc. But we were in that 7 win category that you mention when Gilmore came to SC? Gilmore, especially, had nothing more than hope to go in by coming to SC. We didn't have 11 wins at that point. You may not think Maryland is going to be any good, but the kids that grow up there can certainly have "hope" just like Gilmore and Lattimore had for what SC was going to do. Why was it fair to say five years ago that SC was going to start improving and compete for championships, but not say the same could be said for Maryland over Yannick's career?

So if you want to criticize Yannick for staying home and playing for Md instead of coming to SC, wouldn't it have been kind of be the same thing for a kid like Lattimore or Gilmore?


So whats the difference?

[spursc]

The school doing the most with the least has been South Carolina. The Gamecocks have signed 13 ESPN 150 prospects since 2009, which is seventh in the league. But the Gamecocks have the third-best record over the last four years (38-15) behind only Alabama and LSU. They’re also one of two teams in the league (along with Alabama) to have won 11 or more games each of the last two seasons.

As the Head Ball Coach himself would say, somebody’s coaching ‘em up in Columbia.

Good read!
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/b...e=sec&id=60110

[EveryThingGreen]

Originally Posted by cofcgamecock9

So whats the difference?

there is none

[KaneisAble]

Originally Posted by CockTail

If you think we should be a top 5 ranked team in the polls, why would you not think we should be top 5 in recruiting?

We have great players in this class. I just think we should have 4 or 5 more of them.

You're correlating recruiting rankings w/ team rankings. Both have their inherent BS, but that's giving Rivals, 24/7, ESPN, et al. the entirety of the merit when it comes to evaluating and developing talent and not the coaching staffs or the abilities/natural growth of the players themselves. It's the Five-Star Fallacy, if you will.

Is there a tenuous correlation? Sure. But it's in no way definitive (just as team rankings for actual seasons aren't definitive. See: UGA being ranked ahead of us in final rankings, despite having weaker sked and losing soundly to us).

[Acockolypse Now]

Originally Posted by Cocks and Canes

You're wasting your time b381l, that poster has proven several times that he does not understand what constitutes a good class

Are you referring to me?

Just curious.

[wildwes]

Originally Posted by cofcgamecock9

So whats the difference?

Difference is 7-6 (3-5) with SEC schedule vs 4-8 (2-6) with ACC schedule. Maryland needs MUCH more help than Gamecocks needed after 2009 season.

[ReadR00ster]

Originally Posted by cofcgamecock9

Isn't this all relative? So you aren't very high on Yannick because he wants to go to Maryland and one of your main reasons is because you want guys that really want to compete for championships. And that he should be willing to leave home if he is serious about championships.

But then, in a relative sense, wouldn't that mean that Gilmore, Lattimore, etc should have gone to Alabama or somewhere like that? Now I know you are going to say "but we are working towards competing for a championship," etc. But we were in that 7 win category that you mention when Gilmore came to SC? Gilmore, especially, had nothing more than hope to go in by coming to SC. We didn't have 11 wins at that point. You may not think Maryland is going to be any good, but the kids that grow up there can certainly have "hope" just like Gilmore and Lattimore had for what SC was going to do. Why was it fair to say five years ago that SC was going to start improving and compete for championships, but not say the same could be said for Maryland over Yannick's career?

So if you want to criticize Yannick for staying home and playing for Md instead of coming to SC, wouldn't it have been kind of be the same thing for a kid like Lattimore or Gilmore?


So whats the difference?

The difference is we have Steve Spurrier whose won championships, and they came here with a bunch of other blue chip recruits/players. There was a strong foundation and they DID win the SEC East and played in the SEC Championship Game and barely missed out these last two years. I don't remember us being 2-10 when we landed those guys. Also, I'm not saying I wouldn't take good players because they want to play close to home. I'm saying I'm not going to be disappointed in missing out on someone with those kind of priorities. A person like that is replaceable in my book.