Anyone have any insight on the Corey Miller/Christian Miller issue

[superfly]

Originally Posted by COCKDIESEL

Here is a thought. Do like almost everyone else and don't listen to the station. I bet the only time they get a real listening boost is the last hour of Teddy's show and the 1st two ours of Eric and Carey. The rest of the day it's the same 10 or 15 guys listening and calling in. I travel a lot and I admit I can get their signal further away so I listen on my way in and out of town, but other than the 3 hours of Dan Patrick I don't listen too them much, I will say that when Corey had JC Shurbert with him it was a better combo because Corey didn't have to try and carry the show and all he had to do was interject some experiences in the conversation, which is why Eric and Carey seem to be the best product they put on because Eric carries the show and Carey Rich adds anecdotes from his playing days.

The problem there is, you don't point out the problem. You leave it up to the station to figure it out. I remember Jewlery Warehouse issue worked so try it again. I am sure the fan base is tired of him blasting the program.

[pitchcock]

Originally Posted by elcid99

I have plenty of inside info & wouldn't dream of posting it for the world to read.

Good, then how about a pm?

[5lbYardcock]

I would say Corey was pretty pissed off. He tried to play it like he doesn't care but you could tell in his voice it was sour grapes.

[cockybusiness2]

Cuck Corey Miller.. If SOS wanted his son he would recruit him. If not then let him go else where... I too am a graduate. But does that mean USC must recruit my sons or Grandson... NO

[trapper82]

Corey Miller's big mistake in my opinion is the whole orange kool-aid comment at the clempson. If you have an offer from a school, then take it. Don't get hurt because USC doesn't behave like clempson on the recruiting trail.

[Lalli25]

Wasn't this the same idiot who said how great Clemsux was for offering his kid on Christmas Day?

[4Ever2Thee]

Can anyone who heard it paraphrase what he actually said? If it is as it seems from the op and comments then he needs to shut his mouth, if I were a recruit and my dad was a legacy he wouldn't want me to get preferential treatment bc of it, he would want the coaches to do what they thought was best for the team and he would want me to go where the best opportunity for my career was. If the coaches or university somehow slighted his son, led him on, or mistreated him in some way that would be a different story so I'd like to hear what the actual situation is, and I'm pretty sure that's what the OP was asking for as well

[RudeCock]

We are the professional side of this conversation, us fans who have an outlet (CockyTalk and other GC boards) and The USC. Corey is the other side. It's best to just do the professional thing and let him rant about it. It does USC no good to tell their side, just looks like a big institution trying to step on the smaller guy then. If USC sees no reason to talk about it then we should do the same.

It will also give those Taters some more stuff to put in the thread they have on their boards.

[superfly]

Originally Posted by RudeCock

We are the professional side of this conversation, us fans who have an outlet (CockyTalk and other GC boards) and The USC. Corey is the other side. It's best to just do the professional thing and let him rant about it. It does USC no good to tell their side, just looks like a big institution trying to step on the smaller guy then. If USC sees no reason to talk about it then we should do the same.

It will also give those Taters some more stuff to put in the thread they have on their boards.

Lets put this in perspective. Cory has a beef about this.....he uses his bully pulpit to rant...he goes on visits with his son (around other prospects we will recruit) and procedes to bash this staff and school to other kids. He does it on the air, he'll do it out there on his sons visits. He can say as a former player at the school and former NFL player and radio personality for their flagship station....they suck. Yea....we need to figure this out. This idiot won't stop himself. He is above everyone else...man of God.....yea right Cory. Men of God do these things right?

[Dizzy01]

Corey essentially was continuing his complaints that the school doesn't do a good job maintaining relationships with former players and the current coaches don't do a good job building relationships with recruits, their families and the HS coaches.

[smoovecock]

Corey has been really vocal about the relationships, or lack of,with former Gamecock players..Wether it be a football player or soccer player the university has really done nothing to help or assist players that never pan out in the pro level....Other schools do all they can to assist players to obtain jobs and other stuff but WE do very little....
Other programs use former players as recruiting tools and they even help make calls and send text messages....WE dont....

With all that said I think we do want Christian to come and play with us but on the other hand I think our coaching staff feels like it will be a 4 year headache do to who Christians father is.....But Alabama and klempzun want him so our coaches better figure it out one way or the other...

[sully1]

Honestly....what do these other schools really do for their prior athletes that we dont do?

I believe it is pretty much the same everywhere....I am sure if a former SOS player here at USC came back, he would be treated great.

However, SOS doesnt know players who played under Joe Morrison, Sparky Woods, etc. Why do they expect SOS or whoever else on the football staff to treat them like royalty?

Some of these former players act like they should be given handouts....again, they were given an education (if they chose to take advantage of it), they were given an opportunity to further their playing careers, etc.

I think some of these former players act like welfare recipients....they think they deserve whatever they want.

[zambam]

Originally Posted by smoovecock

Corey has been really vocal about the relationships, or lack of,with former Gamecock players..Wether it be a football player or soccer player the university has really done nothing to help or assist players that never pan out in the pro level....Other schools do all they can to assist players to obtain jobs and other stuff but WE do very little....
Other programs use former players as recruiting tools and they even help make calls and send text messages....WE dont....

With all that said I think we do want Christian to come and play with us but on the other hand I think our coaching staff feels like it will be a 4 year headache do to who Christians father is.....But Alabama and klempzun want him so our coaches better figure it out one way or the other...

I heard the show on Friday and he has gone past this now Smoove.

He said he is upset about rumors that the staff doesn't think he is suited to play in USCs system (better suited to be an OLB in the 3-4). He seems to think that Botkin has said that Christian can't play LB in his scheme.
I don't think the staff can comment on an individual player so I'm not sure where it came from. He said many times that it didn't matter to him and it wasn't personal. He said it enough times that it was obvious that he was taking it VERY personal.

Towards the end of the time I was listening he said that it WAS personal and the fans would find out that Botkin is not a good coach or recruiter.

I agree that we need to have better relationships with former players and it seems like we are starting to work on that.

[smoovecock]

Originally Posted by sully1

Honestly....what do these other schools really do for their prior athletes that we dont do?

I believe it is pretty much the same everywhere....I am sure if a former SOS player here at USC came back, he would be treated great.

However, SOS doesnt know players who played under Joe Morrison, Sparky Woods, etc. Why do they expect SOS or whoever else on the football staff to treat them like royalty?

Some of these former players act like they should be given handouts....again, they were given an education (if they chose to take advantage of it), they were given an opportunity to further their playing careers, etc.

I think some of these former players act like welfare recipients....they think they deserve whatever they want.

....Wrong ...Wrong...Wrong.....most of the players who dont understand why the football program doesnt open up more to them are the ones giving money hand over fist....

[smoovecock]

Originally Posted by zambam

I heard the show on Friday and he has gone past this now Smoove.

He said he is upset about rumors that the staff doesn't think he is suited to play in USCs system (better suited to be an OLB in the 3-4). He seems to think that Botkin has said that Christian can't play LB in his scheme.
I don't think the staff can comment on an individual player so I'm not sure where it came from. He said many times that it didn't matter to him and it wasn't personal. He said it enough times that it was obvious that he was taking it VERY personal.

Towards the end of the time I was listening he said that it WAS personal and the fans would find out that Botkin is not a good coach or recruiter.

I agree that we need to have better relationships with former players and it seems like we are starting to work on that.

....Yep...heard all of that also....But Im kind of torn on this whole deal....Corey is out spoken on a lot of stuff as far as what transpires during the season and also during the off season...and for the most part he makes very good arguments and yes it sometimes hurts...But, on the other hand,we all know that the football coaches really dont like public bashing like Corey can dish out sometimes... so Im pretty sure there is some in the football camp that wonders, if Christian does become a Gamecock how much more bigger can the headache get......It really could go either way......I mean lets face it...Christian has some very good offers including Bama.....it is going to be intresting to see how it plays out....I dont want anyone having any hard feelings either way......And remember....SOS had a few writers and such down in Florida that kind of dissapeared off the face of the earth after they pushed his buttons and also a reporter from our neck of the woods has been put on the back burner for some crap he pulled not so long ago...So the track record is there as far as how our staff takes to criticism...

[Jwilson]

SOS had a few writers and such down in Florida that kind of dissapeared off the face of the earth after they pushed his buttons and also a reporter from our neck of the woods has been put on the back burner for some crap he pulled not so long ago...So the track record is there as far as how our staff takes to criticism...

You totally destroyed the credibility of your post with that statement. SOS doesn't reaaly care about being critized. When some post things that are blatanly untrue or have thinly disquised agendas as to tearing down one prgram while building up another at the first's expense, the response is not only justified, but morally and ethically warranted.

[zambam]

Originally Posted by smoovecock

....Yep...heard all of that also....But Im kind of torn on this whole deal....Corey is out spoken on a lot of stuff as far as what transpires during the season and also during the off season...and for the most part he makes very good arguments and yes it sometimes hurts...But, on the other hand,we all know that the football coaches really dont like public bashing like Corey can dish out sometimes... so Im pretty sure there is some in the football camp that wonders, if Christian does become a Gamecock how much more bigger can the headache get......It really could go either way......I mean lets face it...Christian has some very good offers including Bama.....it is going to be intresting to see how it plays out....I dont want anyone having any hard feelings either way......And remember....SOS had a few writers and such down in Florida that kind of dissapeared off the face of the earth after they pushed his buttons and also a reporter from our neck of the woods has been put on the back burner for some crap he pulled not so long ago...So the track record is there as far as how our staff takes to criticism...

Yes I often agree with Corey in his criticisms and sometimes the truth hurts.. He does, however, have a tendency to take it too far. I think that may be ratings driven. Talk radio is more lucrative for outspoken hosts.

I think he is doing his son a disservice in this whole matter. He has now come out against the two potential position coaches for Christian and it doesn't sound like he has ever talked to either one. Christian says he wants to keep his recruitment low key and Corey puts it all over his radio show.

Prayers out to Corey's father who is in the hospital in Charlotte.