2014 - Drew Barker - Kentucky

[Rh Gamecock]

Originally Posted by ReadR00ster

Googer is a QB. I know we are recruiting him for WR, but maybe he can be cross trained if we miss on other QBs this year.

He is going to play receiver and we are at the stage where we don't have to do that.

[b381l]

Originally Posted by Kazak

Dude, Spurrier has never said he was retiring after Mitch's career is done. Thus your post was based on pure speculation (and silly speculation, in my opinion).

Spurrier has expressed just as much excitement about Nosovitch as he has about Mitch, which helps to illustrate just how absurd this concept is. His decision will not be tied to one player--it will be about Spurrier's own ambition, commitment, and legacy, period.

Spurrier wanted to break the USC wins record. Done. Now he is on record as saying he wants 100 wins here. This is based on documented quotes, not speculation. After he achieves that, I believe the goal of breaking Bear Bryant's SEC wins record will be enough to keep him motivated, and it will be within reach. This would easily carry him well past the length of Barker's career. Based on Spurrier's history of raising his goals--and the fact that he seems to be having as much fun as ever--this makes a hell of a lot more sense than the "retire after Mitch is done" baloney.

Instead of posting on here, call him and ask him.

[b381l]

Originally Posted by CockOla

+1.

Just note to ignore b381l posts as they tend to harbor negative/ulterior motives about Gamecock Football Program and coaches.

I'm not down on any of these QB's.....you just happen to be a low information poster.

[STEPHONGILMOREFAN!]

Dont shoot the messenger. Im not claiming to "know" anything. But my buddy says barker has already started to recruit for UK..

[ReadR00ster]

Originally Posted by Rh Gamecock

He is going to play receiver and we are at the stage where we don't have to do that.

yeah, well. We may not get a QB this year even though we want one, unless there is someone flying under the radar that we like.

[cofcgamecock9]

Originally Posted by b381l

Perhaps Stoops record at Arizona won't work against him. What's working against us is SOS leaving after Mitch......so Barker won't get 4 years of him. Also, with Nosovitch a rs freshman and Mitch just starting his 4-5 years here, we're in good shape with QB. If we get Barker fine, but if not, I don't see QB being a big need for 2014.

No one knows how long Spurrier is going to be here. I listen to everything that comes out of his mouth in public (press conferences, call in shows, interviews) and one thing I can tell you for certain is that we will not know when Spurrier is going to leave until it happens. Every year, Spurrier is going to say he is going to coach four or five more years. He will continue to get contract extensions. He is not going to say anything different than what he has said for the past several years. There is never going to be a time when Spurrier comes to us and says "I think next year is going to be my last." At least not unless he was well into his late 70s.

I have no proof of this, but from listening to Spurrier very carefully, I also believe that Spurrier has no idea how much longer he is going to stay. I think some of you have this idea that Spurrier has it planned out. I am pretty sure, from listening to him carefully, the he doesn't. He is taking it year by year. Sure, he says that he wants to win 100 games, etc. But if you listen to Spurrier, he is VERY good at saying the right things for recruits and fundraising purposes. And when he says them, I think he believes them. Right now, I am sure Spurrier does want to get to 100 wins. But if we win the SEC Championship next year or if the team goes 6-7, he may not feel that way. And one thing I can promise is that Spurrier is going to do what Spurrier wants to do. If nothing else, I know that he doesn't feel a sense of responsibility to doing anything else at SC. He is here and coaching because he is having fun and he wants to do things that have never been done. But if it becomes work more than having fun and he stops accomplishing those goals, then he will be gone and his contract, what he has said publicly, etc. will not matter.

On the other hand, if SC keeps winning then I don't think any of us know how much longer he is going to stay. He said he would never be a coach at the age he is now. He had absolutely no intentions of coaching at SC for longer than he coached at Florida. So would I think it would be that unrealistic to see him coaching at 75? Absolutely not. Not if he is healthy and the team is winning.

[CoverTwo]

Originally Posted by ReadR00ster

yeah, well. We may not get a QB this year even though we want one, unless there is someone flying under the radar that we like.

Plenty of QBs out there this cycle.

[JDStud6]

Originally Posted by cofcgamecock9

No one knows how long Spurrier is going to be here. I listen to everything that comes out of his mouth in public (press conferences, call in shows, interviews) and one thing I can tell you for certain is that we will not know when Spurrier is going to leave until it happens. Every year, Spurrier is going to say he is going to coach four or five more years. He will continue to get contract extensions. He is not going to say anything different than what he has said for the past several years. There is never going to be a time when Spurrier comes to us and says "I think next year is going to be my last." At least not unless he was well into his late 70s.

I have no proof of this, but from listening to Spurrier very carefully, I also believe that Spurrier has no idea how much longer he is going to stay. I think some of you have this idea that Spurrier has it planned out. I am pretty sure, from listening to him carefully, the he doesn't. He is taking it year by year. Sure, he says that he wants to win 100 games, etc. But if you listen to Spurrier, he is VERY good at saying the right things for recruits and fundraising purposes. And when he says them, I think he believes them. Right now, I am sure Spurrier does want to get to 100 wins. But if we win the SEC Championship next year or if the team goes 6-7, he may not feel that way. And one thing I can promise is that Spurrier is going to do what Spurrier wants to do. If nothing else, I know that he doesn't feel a sense of responsibility to doing anything else at SC. He is here and coaching because he is having fun and he wants to do things that have never been done. But if it becomes work more than having fun and he stops accomplishing those goals, then he will be gone and his contract, what he has said publicly, etc. will not matter.

On the other hand, if SC keeps winning then I don't think any of us know how much longer he is going to stay. He said he would never be a coach at the age he is now. He had absolutely no intentions of coaching at SC for longer than he coached at Florida. So would I think it would be that unrealistic to see him coaching at 75? Absolutely not. Not if he is healthy and the team is winning.

Totally agree. There will be no warning. He's not going to say "2017 is my last year coaching" and have a 'coach in waiting' I don't think. It will probably be a sudden shock to most people. And you can never trust anything ANY of these coaches say 100%. How many times have we seen them say something about being around for a while and then bolting to NFL or other teams.

I'm glad we have him and hope he stays a long time. But there's no point in speculating or debating when he's leaving, because no one knows...not even Spurrier himself.

JD

[b381l]

Originally Posted by cofcgamecock9

No one knows how long Spurrier is going to be here. I listen to everything that comes out of his mouth in public (press conferences, call in shows, interviews) and one thing I can tell you for certain is that we will not know when Spurrier is going to leave until it happens. Every year, Spurrier is going to say he is going to coach four or five more years. He will continue to get contract extensions. He is not going to say anything different than what he has said for the past several years. There is never going to be a time when Spurrier comes to us and says "I think next year is going to be my last." At least not unless he was well into his late 70s.

I have no proof of this, but from listening to Spurrier very carefully, I also believe that Spurrier has no idea how much longer he is going to stay. I think some of you have this idea that Spurrier has it planned out. I am pretty sure, from listening to him carefully, the he doesn't. He is taking it year by year. Sure, he says that he wants to win 100 games, etc. But if you listen to Spurrier, he is VERY good at saying the right things for recruits and fundraising purposes. And when he says them, I think he believes them. Right now, I am sure Spurrier does want to get to 100 wins. But if we win the SEC Championship next year or if the team goes 6-7, he may not feel that way. And one thing I can promise is that Spurrier is going to do what Spurrier wants to do. If nothing else, I know that he doesn't feel a sense of responsibility to doing anything else at SC. He is here and coaching because he is having fun and he wants to do things that have never been done. But if it becomes work more than having fun and he stops accomplishing those goals, then he will be gone and his contract, what he has said publicly, etc. will not matter.

On the other hand, if SC keeps winning then I don't think any of us know how much longer he is going to stay. He said he would never be a coach at the age he is now. He had absolutely no intentions of coaching at SC for longer than he coached at Florida. So would I think it would be that unrealistic to see him coaching at 75? Absolutely not. Not if he is healthy and the team is winning.

The way he always seems to answer the question is, well I'm going to coach another 4-5 years. I do know he is extremely competitive, and if he's still winning 10-11 games each year, he could coach for another 10 years. One thing that has helped him is the fact that he gets in the gym an hour or so each day, and that could very well keep his energy level up for a longer period. I think the 100 wins can be done in 4 years hopefully. My reference to how many more years relating to Drew Barker was that he has said publicly that he's only going to stay another 4-5 years which "may" impact Barker's decision....none of us know. All this does give us lots to discuss and speculate on what he will utimately do.

[Evilchicken2]

What Spurrier is doing now is shooting fish in a barrel. Once he gets tired of it he'll leave. Right now there is very little stress in Steve's life...healthy family...winning program...no major controversies....? Things are looking good for another 4-5 yrs, BUT if something dramatic were to happen, ie recruiting violations, major program embarrassment, no player buy-in...he'll bolt for retirement and the sunset.

[ReadR00ster]

this the wrong forum for this convo.

[gamecockphan]

Originally Posted by STEPHONGILMOREFAN!

Dont shoot the messenger. Im not claiming to "know" anything. But my buddy says barker has already started to recruit for UK..

Jesus H Christ.

Really guys? UK? Not good.

[EveryThingGreen]

Originally Posted by gamecockphan

Jesus H Christ.

Really guys? UK? Not good.

Alabama was saying the same thing when Gilmore and Clowney picked us over them. SoCal when Alshon flipped.

The first order of business for any new coaching staff that wants to have success is to shutdown the borders and win the home state in recruiting. The new UK staff is trying to do just that.

The chance to be the home-state hero is a very big selling point, especially a QB.

[CharlotteGameCock]

Originally Posted by gamecockphan

Jesus H Christ.

Really guys? UK? Not good.

Don't freak out yet - not trying to bash but this is the 3rd school that SGF has tied Barker to in the past 90-120 days: Ohio St, then us, now UK

[Gamecocks321]

Originally Posted by STEPHONGILMOREFAN!

Dont shoot the messenger. Im not claiming to "know" anything. But my buddy says barker has already started to recruit for UK..

Sounds like what Matt Rolin did for us, and we all know how that ended. Nothing is official until NSD and that's a LONG time from now. Chill everyone.

[Evilchicken2]

Originally Posted by Gamecocks321

Sounds like what Matt Rolin did for us, and we all know how that ended. Nothing is official until NSD and that's a LONG time from now. Chill everyone.

There's no such thing as a long time. Before you know it it'll be NSD 2014! ARGH!!!!

[ReadR00ster]

It seems like we're putting all our eggs in one basket.

[CoverTwo]

No, USC has recruited QBs this way ever since Mangus took over. He pops out the first offer and recruits that guy as hard as possible until the prospect says no. Meanwhile, he is upfront and honest with the guys below that prospect on the board and if he misses on his top guy, he goes after those next in line.

Just like last season. Hackenberg got the first offer. Mangus went full bore. Hackenberg commits to PSU, Mangus starts evaluating other guys and ends up offer Connor Mitch and Kevin Olsen. Ends up getting Mitch.

It'll probably be the same way this year if they miss on Barker.

[MikeTrainNC8]

Originally Posted by ReadR00ster

Googer is a QB. I know we are recruiting him for WR, but maybe he can be cross trained if we miss on other QBs this year.

haha really?? you truly do not know much, do you? I know you just joined in September, but come on our program isn't that bad off- even a tater could see that

This isn't 2005/2006..We have zero reason to waste Googer's immense WR talent if he comes here...

[MikeTrainNC8]

Originally Posted by CoverTwo

No, USC has recruited QBs this way ever since Mangus took over. He pops out the first offer and recruits that guy as hard as possible until the prospect says no. Meanwhile, he is upfront and honest with the guys below that prospect on the board and if he misses on his top guy, he goes after those next in line.

Just like last season.

Exactly, nothing new