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Old 02-20-2013, 05:51 PM   #3301
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I'm just not seeing a lot of QBs out there that can compete against the guys we have now. Most of the better "ARMS" are not mobile enough for our offense.
I'm sure Spurrier wouldn't mind going back to the Fun 'n Gun.
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I'm sure Spurrier wouldn't mind going back to the Fun 'n Gun.
I don't either, but I don't think we wants a statute back there. The QB's got to be able to move a bit, like Mitch.
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You do not have to be mobile to play QB in our offense. Connor Mitch is not mobile. Dyland Thompson is not mobile. Those 2 QBs are not statues but they can fool a defense that falls alseep on their ability to make a play with their legs. However, neither one is a mobile QB.
Mitch and Thompson ARE mobile. They aren't blazing fast like Shaw, but they scramble fine and can make plays with their legs. I don't see a lot of players like that looking at us.
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Mitch and Thompson ARE mobile. They aren't blazing fast like Shaw, but they scramble fine and can make plays with their legs. I don't see a lot of players like that looking at us.
You can't tell who is or isn't looking at us because there is only ONE offer out right now. They've kept tabs on some other guys but that is the extent of it.

No one really new Connor Mitch was interested until he got his offer.

Just let it play out. USC is going to get a good QB.
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You can't tell who is or isn't looking at us because there is only ONE offer out right now. They've kept tabs on some other guys but that is the extent of it.

No one really new Connor Mitch was interested until he got his offer.

Just let it play out. USC is going to get a good QB.
There is a reason why we haven't offered more, Harris, Henderson, and Litton ARE statues. That is the reason. We don't like them that much. If we did, they'd have an offer.
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There is a reason why we haven't offered more, Harris, Henderson, and Litton ARE statues. That is the reason. We don't like them that much. If we did, they'd have an offer.
No, they don't have an offer because Barker is our #1 target and that is how Mangus operates the recruitment of that position.

If Barker commits to UK and they offer Harris, did the staff suddenly stop caring about his lack of mobility?

Until Barker commits else where, he will be the only QB with an offer.
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The way Mangus has recruited QBs has been like this. When he targets his 1st choice, the offer goes out and he recruits the heck of out of the guy until he is told no. When that happens, he regroups and evaluates then usually sends out 1 or 2 offers to the next guy(s) on his wishlist. It has been like that since he got here and it'll probably continue to be the same way. He has never gotten his first choice but the alternative choices have always been really good prospects. Which gives me a comfort knowing that if USC misses on Barker, Mangus has another good option right behind him.

He doesn't handle QB recruiting like coaches that offer skill position players as in you don't see a blanket of offers go out. Its true that the backup plans to Barker are probably not as good or as good of a fit as he is, but it doesn't mean that they are slack and/or they aren't looking at us.

I know two things about Mangus. 1) He can recruit with the best, 2) he can evaluate QB talent.
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If Butch Jones can coach better than Dooley (shouldn't take much) Tennessee will beat Vandy this year.
Hurd won't be at Vandy anyway.
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OK, so what does this mean and "VFL" too?

I am not sure that anyone is a "lock" for TN. One of the top RBs (Jalen Hurd) is from TN in the next class and is barely, if at all, considering the Vols.

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V, B = Vols, Bitch
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Its from the UTk rivals mainboard trolls.
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Dooley burned so many bridges with local coaches. We lost Vonn Bell and it is almost entirely on Dooley.

Jones has gotten us back in it with Hurd but it won't mean anything unless we can show decent imporvement this year. If we can go 7-6 (winning the bowl) I think we can expect a top-10 class this year, similar to Ole Miss (only the bulk of our kids will be highly ranked legacies). Bates, Kelly Jr, Hurd, the Berry twins, Malone, etc...

If we don't, then yes, you'll be right, and the dumpster fire will continue. Our schedule is brutal, so there's a decent chance that will indeed happen.
Top 10 class? You need a reality check!
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You know as much about who we are in on as I do about who you are in on.

Our legacy and in-state class alone would put us in the top 12.

Vol fans have been waiting for this class since Fulmer was still coach.
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Vols sucked this year, lost their HC, missed on a bunch of kids late, and still finished #20.

They will always be able to recruit and this year they have a bunch of legacies that they'll land that will boost their class.
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No, they don't have an offer because Barker is our #1 target and that is how Mangus operates the recruitment of that position.

If Barker commits to UK and they offer Harris, did the staff suddenly stop caring about his lack of mobility?

Until Barker commits else where, he will be the only QB with an offer.

Harris has a significantly better arm than Barker, but the reason Barker has the offer and not Harris is because he is mobile and Harris is not. We're looking for mobile QBs because that is what our system is. Fun and gun is dead.
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Harris has a significantly better arm than Barker, but the reason Barker has the offer and not Harris is because he is mobile and Harris is not. We're looking for mobile QBs because that is what our system is. Fun and gun is dead.
That is how you decided, Coach Mangus?
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Lol THIS.... ridiculous
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Mitch is not mobile. I don't know where you get the idea that a kid who runs a 4.9 is mobile.

Yes, he can scramble for a couple yards or fake a defense out the 1 time he keeps the ball on the zone read, but he is not what is considered by todays standards as a "mobile QB".

Dylan is not mobile either. He runs like he has 2 left feet but the times he has run, he has picked up some yards because teams are not focusing on that aspect of his game. He was successful because he was able to catch them off guard.

As our OL improves in pass blocking, our need for a "mobile" QB is going to start disappearing. It becomes a bonus if the kid with the big arm can also run, but it is no longer a necessity.
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The more you post, the more it shows how little you know.... come on
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Barker's arm is plenty strong enough btw. The 30 second mark is the only throw you need to see. A 35yd strike on the run.


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