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Old 02-20-2013, 05:09 PM   #3281
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Default Re: 2014 - Drew Barker

You need to take a QB every year which is what Mangus does. Its a high attrition position, especially here.

Think about it. If USC didn't sign a good QB prospect this year, they would have Thompson, Nosovitch, and Mitch next season. What if for some reason Nosovitch transfers and Thompson gets hurt? or both players get hurt. You only have Connor Mitch on the roster. And vice versa, what if Nosy and Mitch both go down. No one to back up Thompson.

There are plenty of good arms available out there.

Not only that but bringing at QB in every year adds competition and keeps the guys on their toes. More competition is going to bring the best out of these guys OR we are going to get lucky and Spurrier finds his next Heisman trophy winner who surpasses all of the current players and takes USC to the promise land.

QB is the most important position on the team. Its better to be filled with talent top to bottom rather than having only 1 or 2 guys that can play.
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Put it this way, I bet Maryland wished they had more QBs on the roster last season. Stuff like what they went through can happen.
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You need to take a QB every year which is what Mangus does. Its a high attrition position, especially here.

Think about it. If USC didn't sign a good QB prospect this year, they would have Thompson, Nosovitch, and Mitch next season. What if for some reason Nosovitch transfers and Thompson gets hurt? or both players get hurt. You only have Connor Mitch on the roster. And vice versa, what if Nosy and Mitch both go down. No one to back up Thompson.

There are plenty of good arms available out there.

Not only that but bringing at QB in every year adds competition and keeps the guys on their toes. More competition is going to bring the best out of these guys OR we are going to get lucky and Spurrier finds his next Heisman trophy winner who surpasses all of the current players and takes USC to the promise land.

QB is the most important position on the team. Its better to be filled with talent top to bottom rather than having only 1 or 2 guys that can play.
Very true, you make some good points here.
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I'm just not seeing a lot of QBs out there that can compete against the guys we have now. Most of the better "ARMS" are not mobile enough for our offense.
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You do not have to be mobile to play QB in our offense. Connor Mitch is not mobile. Dyland Thompson is not mobile. Those 2 QBs are not statues but they can fool a defense that falls alseep on their ability to make a play with their legs. However, neither one is a mobile QB.
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I'm sure Spurrier wouldn't mind going back to the Fun 'n Gun.
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I don't either, but I don't think we wants a statute back there. The QB's got to be able to move a bit, like Mitch.
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You do not have to be mobile to play QB in our offense. Connor Mitch is not mobile. Dyland Thompson is not mobile. Those 2 QBs are not statues but they can fool a defense that falls alseep on their ability to make a play with their legs. However, neither one is a mobile QB.
Mitch and Thompson ARE mobile. They aren't blazing fast like Shaw, but they scramble fine and can make plays with their legs. I don't see a lot of players like that looking at us.
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Mitch and Thompson ARE mobile. They aren't blazing fast like Shaw, but they scramble fine and can make plays with their legs. I don't see a lot of players like that looking at us.
You can't tell who is or isn't looking at us because there is only ONE offer out right now. They've kept tabs on some other guys but that is the extent of it.

No one really new Connor Mitch was interested until he got his offer.

Just let it play out. USC is going to get a good QB.
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You can't tell who is or isn't looking at us because there is only ONE offer out right now. They've kept tabs on some other guys but that is the extent of it.

No one really new Connor Mitch was interested until he got his offer.

Just let it play out. USC is going to get a good QB.
There is a reason why we haven't offered more, Harris, Henderson, and Litton ARE statues. That is the reason. We don't like them that much. If we did, they'd have an offer.
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There is a reason why we haven't offered more, Harris, Henderson, and Litton ARE statues. That is the reason. We don't like them that much. If we did, they'd have an offer.
No, they don't have an offer because Barker is our #1 target and that is how Mangus operates the recruitment of that position.

If Barker commits to UK and they offer Harris, did the staff suddenly stop caring about his lack of mobility?

Until Barker commits else where, he will be the only QB with an offer.
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The way Mangus has recruited QBs has been like this. When he targets his 1st choice, the offer goes out and he recruits the heck of out of the guy until he is told no. When that happens, he regroups and evaluates then usually sends out 1 or 2 offers to the next guy(s) on his wishlist. It has been like that since he got here and it'll probably continue to be the same way. He has never gotten his first choice but the alternative choices have always been really good prospects. Which gives me a comfort knowing that if USC misses on Barker, Mangus has another good option right behind him.

He doesn't handle QB recruiting like coaches that offer skill position players as in you don't see a blanket of offers go out. Its true that the backup plans to Barker are probably not as good or as good of a fit as he is, but it doesn't mean that they are slack and/or they aren't looking at us.

I know two things about Mangus. 1) He can recruit with the best, 2) he can evaluate QB talent.
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If Butch Jones can coach better than Dooley (shouldn't take much) Tennessee will beat Vandy this year.
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OK, so what does this mean and "VFL" too?

I am not sure that anyone is a "lock" for TN. One of the top RBs (Jalen Hurd) is from TN in the next class and is barely, if at all, considering the Vols.

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Dooley burned so many bridges with local coaches. We lost Vonn Bell and it is almost entirely on Dooley.

Jones has gotten us back in it with Hurd but it won't mean anything unless we can show decent imporvement this year. If we can go 7-6 (winning the bowl) I think we can expect a top-10 class this year, similar to Ole Miss (only the bulk of our kids will be highly ranked legacies). Bates, Kelly Jr, Hurd, the Berry twins, Malone, etc...

If we don't, then yes, you'll be right, and the dumpster fire will continue. Our schedule is brutal, so there's a decent chance that will indeed happen.
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You know as much about who we are in on as I do about who you are in on.

Our legacy and in-state class alone would put us in the top 12.

Vol fans have been waiting for this class since Fulmer was still coach.
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Vols sucked this year, lost their HC, missed on a bunch of kids late, and still finished #20.

They will always be able to recruit and this year they have a bunch of legacies that they'll land that will boost their class.
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