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Old 02-20-2013, 08:26 PM   #3321
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Mitch is not mobile. I don't know where you get the idea that a kid who runs a 4.9 is mobile.

Yes, he can scramble for a couple yards or fake a defense out the 1 time he keeps the ball on the zone read, but he is not what is considered by todays standards as a "mobile QB".

Dylan is not mobile either. He runs like he has 2 left feet but the times he has run, he has picked up some yards because teams are not focusing on that aspect of his game. He was successful because he was able to catch them off guard.

As our OL improves in pass blocking, our need for a "mobile" QB is going to start disappearing. It becomes a bonus if the kid with the big arm can also run, but it is no longer a necessity.
Mitch and Thompson are EXCELLENT scramblers. Running is not about a 40 time. They do a very good job of buying time with their legs.
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Barker's arm is plenty strong enough btw. The 30 second mark is the only throw you need to see. A 35yd strike on the run.


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I didn't say Barker didn't have strong arm, but Harris has a stronger arm and is more accurate.
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Mitch and Thompson are EXCELLENT scramblers. Running is not about a 40 time. They do a very good job of buying time with their legs.
So does Peyton Manning, is he a mobile qb too?

Because a kid can buy some time with his legs, does not make him a mobile QB.
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I think you should just come out and say that you prefer Mangus target Harris instead of Barker.

Then my next question will be, how come Harris has no offers right now? How come Barker has 13 offers?
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So does Peyton Manning, is he a mobile qb too?

Because a kid can buy some time with his legs, does not make him a mobile QB.
I see no Peyton Manning out there.
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I think you should just come out and say that you prefer Mangus target Harris instead of Barker.

Then my next question will be, how come Harris has no offers right now? How come Barker has 13 offers?
Actually, the opposite. The only one really I like that I see us having a chance with is Barker, and possibly Wolford. I don't really like Harris, he is a statue. You don't have to be the fastest guy in the world, but running the football has to at least be a part of your game. Our offense requires the QB to run from time to time.
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I'm never wrong, homie. And I never give up. You don't have to respond if you don't like my opinion. You're wasting your time trying to get me to stop posting what I think, because I won't.
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Trust me, we all know you won't stop. I bet you play a lot of NCAA 13 while making snarky remarks about our coaching staff under your breath, thinking you could coach better.
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Thanks CoverTwo and ETG for your insightful knowledge!
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Anyone watch the video up on TBS? Interviewer is super creepy. We still the favorite here?
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Default The Official 247Sports Top 247 Rankings Thread

Interesting to run down the list of the top 247 2014 recruits that was released. I can't remember leading for this many top recruits this early, though of course recruiting is getting done earlier than ever. They use "Hot", "Warmer", "Warm" etc., which essentially seems to translate into "Way out front", "Leader" and "Lead pack". In order they have us way out front for:
#116 D. Wideman SDE
#159 N. Pringle DT
#209 B. Allen-Williams LB
#221 T. Googer WR

Also, Poona Ford must have barely missed the cut on the list, but SC leads.
Leaders for:
#58 S. Davidson WR
#73 D. Stanley OL
#91 D. Scott RB

And top 2-5 for:
#1 D. Hand DE
#51 B. Spain OL
#94 D. Barker QB
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:50 PM   #3334
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Great list, a poster on the secrant made this list to illustrate what you were getting at. I think on 247 it goes from Warmer to Favorite though.


Great list, Conway. I wanted to point out the guys we currently Lead with or are in their lead group. However, this is really an "at this point in time" type thing since these are 17 year old guys we are talking about and could change over a weekend.

We are the Leader/Favorite for:
DT Dexter Wideman, Saluda (Rivals 4* and 137th overall, 24/7 4* 93-grade)
LB Bryson Allen-Williams, Ellenwood, GA (Rivals 4* & 247th overall, 24/7 4* 91-grade)
DT Naquez Pringle, Carvers Bay (24/7 4* 92-grade)
WR Shaq Davidson, Gaffney (Rivals 4* and 96th overall, 24/7 4* 96-grade)
OL Donnell Stanley, Latta (current Rivals 4* and 34th overall prospect, 24/7 4* 95-grade)
RB Derrell Scott, Havelock, NC (Rivals 4* & 141st overall, 24/7 4* 91-grade)
DT Peyton Newell, Hiawatha, KS (24/7 4* 92-grade)
DT Poona Ford, Hilton Head HS,, SC (247 4* 90 grade)
WR Terry Googer, Atlanta, GA (Rivals 4*, 24/7 4* 90-grade)
We are looking good for signing at least 2 Top Tier DT's.

Highly recruited guys we are in the Lead Group with are:
DE Da'Shawn Hand, Woodbridge, VA (Rivals 5* & 1st overall, 24/7 5* 100-grade, 1st overall)
DE Lorenzo Carter, Norcross, GA (Rivals 5* & 9th overall, 24/7 5* 100-grade)
DB Marlon Humphrey, Hoover, AL (Rivals 5* & 10th overall, 24/7 5* 99-grade)
OL Damien Prince, Forestville, MD (Rivals 4* & 31st overall, 24/7 5* 98-grade)
LB Dillon Bates, Ponte Vedra, FL (Rivals 4* & 58th overall, 24/7 4* 91-grade)
WR Josh Malone, Gallatin, TN (Rivals 4* & 72nd overall, 24/7 4* 95-grade)
DB Ronnie Clark, Calera, AL (Rivals 4* & 78th overall, 24/7 4* 93-grade)
OL Bentley Spain, Charlotte, NC (Rivals 4* & 86th overall, 24/7 4* 96-grade) (In his Top 2)
DE Justin Thornton, Prichard, AL (Rivals 4* & 112th overall, 24/7 4* 96-grade)
QB Drew Barker, Burlington, KY (Rivals 4* & 153rd overall, 24/7 4* 94-grade) (In his Top 3)
DT Anthony Moten, Fort Lauderdale, FL (Rivals 4* & 170th overall, 24/7 4* 90-grade) (In his Top 2)
OLB D'ronzjiah Matthews, South Fort Myers, FL (24/7 4* 90-grade)
TE Milan Richard, Savannah, GA (24/7 4* 90-grade)
OLB Jacob Pugh, Tallahassee, FL (24/7 4* 90-grade)
DB Dominique Brown, Ocala, FL (24/7 4* 90-grade)
ILB Deshaun Davis, Mobile, AL (24/7 4* 90-grade)
WR Braxton Berrios, Raleigh, NC (24/7 3* 89-grade)
ATH Kevin Crosby, Jr., Bamberg-Ehrhardt (Rivals 4* and 132nd overall, 24/7 4* 90-grade)
TE Kalan Ritchie, Goose Creek (Rivals 4* and 212th overall, 24/7 3* 88-grade)
RB Caleb Kinlaw, Goose Creek (24/7 3* 87-grade)
WR Blake Bone, Woodruff (24/7 3* 85-grade) (Top 2)
There's a fistful of other 3 star recruits, mostly WR's that we are in the lead group with.
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I'm never wrong, homie. And I never give up. You don't have to respond if you don't like my opinion. You're wasting your time trying to get me to stop posting what I think, because I won't.
Everyone is entitled to have an opinion, and post it.

That said, if someone disagrees with your opinion, they're also entitled to post their thoughts.

Some people here post with good inside info, or they post a learned opinion based on good knowledge. They aren't always right or don't always post opinion that's popular with the masses, but that's ok...they at least seem to have an idea what they're talking about.

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Everyone is entitled to have an opinion, and post it.

That said, if someone disagrees with your opinion, they're also entitled to post their thoughts.

Some people here post with good inside info, or they post a learned opinion based on good knowledge. They aren't always right or don't always post opinion that's popular with the masses, but that's ok...they at least seem to have an idea what they're talking about.

Then, there's people like you.
This post FTW.

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JMO but Drew Barker is mobile and has a strong arm. Harris has good pocket presence and can move around but is not a duel threat. Harris arm strength is elite. I expect Harris to get an offer once we do not feel good about Barker.
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i just want a quarterback to be a passer.. not a thrower.. difference between barker and harris... shaw and thompson...

Very good point about being a passer not a thrower. I won't critique Barker - haven't seen enough of him - but think the Thompson to Shaw is a perfect example of the difference. A QB needs to have touch and the ability to drop the ball into holes. That ability has nothing to do with arm strength, but more of a natural skill.
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I know we take Barker if he commits, but with the low scholarships available I'm not sure we need to sign a QB this year.
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I know we take Barker if he commits, but with the low scholarships available I'm not sure we need to sign a QB this year.
We sign one every year bc of attrition.
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