28 Year Old Women Set to Try Out with NFL Teams

[FloydTheBarber]

Originally Posted by sporkgod50

the difference is harder to ignore, but we are still talking about bigotry no matter how you slice it.

Originally Posted by sporkgod50

hetero and homosexual players are expected to shower and change together. from middle school gym class on to professional sports. they have been for ... well as long as we've had running water I suppose.

So, are their female counterparts expected to be "separate but equal?"

I've been told my whole life that such a concept does not work.

Are we suppose to just keep doing that...because that's the way we've always done it?
Wouldn't that contradict your point?

[sporkgod50]

Originally Posted by FloydTheBarber

Actually I'm talking equality

Why should there be an expectation that a female player get "her own separate locker room"?

Is that fair?

Or shouldn't she be treated as an equal?

The homosexual player reference was merely a point I was making about the expectation.

So you would be happy with openly gay men and women in the same locker room with the rest of the team as long as they were equally qualified players? thats equality.

[sporkgod50]

Originally Posted by FloydTheBarber

So, are their female counterparts expected to be "separate but equal?"

I've been told my whole life that such a concept does not work.

Are we suppose to just keep doing that...because that's the way we've always done it?
Wouldn't that contradict your point?

the logic in your opinion escapes me, so I will just assume you are a nice person who believes that homosexuals should be treated like exactly like heterosexuals and wish you a good night. work calls. . .

[FloydTheBarber]

Originally Posted by sporkgod50

So you would be happy with openly gay men and women in the same locker room with the rest of the team as long as they were equally qualified players? thats equality.

I haven't taken a stance other than the one that double standards are bad.

Would you be ok with that sort of equality?

Do you think the majority of others would also?

If not, would that make every single one of them who was not "bigots?"

[FloydTheBarber]

Originally Posted by sporkgod50

the logic in your opinion escapes me, so I will just assume you are a nice person who believes that homosexuals should be treated like exactly like heterosexuals and wish you a good night. work calls. . .

The logic of opposing a double standard escapes you?

That's strange.

[sc455]

Originally Posted by sporkgod50

(even though its a tangent from my point) To answer your question: In the NFL, yes. I would expect professionals to act like professionals.

(BTW, woman reporters are in NFL locker rooms with naked men all the time. just ask Brett Farve)

BUT, I was commenting in regard to your statement that homosexuals in NFL locker rooms would make the heterosexuals feel uncomfortable. That situation is the same as white baseball players feeling uncomfortable with black baseball players in the 1920s. You should never ban someone because they are different or because the fact they are different makes you feel uncomfortable.

they arent in there at the same time the players are stripped. a bit after

[Emery]

Gimmick at best and sets up the other players for failure. Who's going to be the jerk on the bad snap to light her up?

This isn't NASCAR where sex truly has no impact.

[spareparts]

How this thread became a heated discussion of gays is confusing

You all could probably watch a porn flick and debate whether or not the actresses use proper skin moisturizers.

[me4USC]

Originally Posted by sporkgod50

(even though its a tangent from my point) To answer your question: In the NFL, yes. I would expect professionals to act like professionals.

(BTW, woman reporters are in NFL locker rooms with naked men all the time. just ask Brett Farve)

BUT, I was commenting in regard to your statement that homosexuals in NFL locker rooms would make the heterosexuals feel uncomfortable. That situation is the same as white baseball players feeling uncomfortable with black baseball players in the 1920s. You should never ban someone because they are different or because the fact they are different makes you feel uncomfortable.

In my opinion, it isn't the same thing. Black, white, purple, or polka-dotted guys all have the same parts. Not true of women and men.

[sporkgod50]

Originally Posted by spareparts

How this thread became a heated discussion of gays is confusing

You all could probably watch a porn flick and debate whether or not the actresses use proper skin moisturizers.

Hell I was part of the discussion and I'm confused how it came about. Analogy gone wrong, maybe?

[b381l]

Originally Posted by FloydTheBarber

My point is that if homosexual and heterosexual players should be expected to shower and change in the same locker room, then that expectation should also be extended to players of different genders.

That is all. I'm not saying either is right or wrong.

There is no comparison to be made between homosexual and heterosexual men sharing a locker room and men and women sharing a locker room......one is mental the other is physical.

[sporkgod50]

Originally Posted by b381l

There is no comparison to be made between homosexual and heterosexual men sharing a locker room and men and women sharing a locker room......one is mental the other is physical.

almost all agree that the analogy was a poor one, so save your time. as noted in the spurt and practice reports thread, a troll is a troll and trolls will hate. floyd isnt trying to state an opinion as much as to insite others to argue with him.

(I apologize for being sucked in.)

[4Ever2Thee]

Can she actually kick? Was she a kicker in college? Why haven't we heard if her before, I hope she actually has some talent and can kick a 40+ yarder or so, otherwise she's just wasting people's time to prove a point

[sporkgod50]

Originally Posted by 4Ever2Thee

Can she actually kick? Was she a kicker in college? Why haven't we heard if her before, I hope she actually has some talent and can kick a 40+ yarder or so, otherwise she's just wasting people's time to prove a point

exactly. forget everything else. the only thing that matters is her skill or lack there of. if she can kick better than the next person in line, everything will find a way to work itself out. if she can't, she will disappear like everyother attention seeker.

[usc90grad]

Originally Posted by 4Ever2Thee

Can she actually kick?

Only like Charlie Brown

[Spurrier_Superior_One]

She is claiming she "hurt" her quad this week.

[Lalli25]

Don't even get why this is a story? If she can kick? Great. If not? Fine. Either way this in no way is some landmark moment.

[FloydTheBarber]

Originally Posted by sporkgod50

almost all agree that the analogy was a poor one, so save your time. as noted in the spurt and practice reports thread, a troll is a troll and trolls will hate. floyd isnt trying to state an opinion as much as to insite others to argue with him.

(I apologize for being sucked in.)

Ad hominem, FTW!

[sporkgod50]

Originally Posted by usc90grad

Only like Charlie Brown

is that video actually her? cause...

[usc90grad]

Originally Posted by sporkgod50

is that video actually her? cause...

Yes