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Old 03-03-2013, 08:17 PM   #21
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Carerra runs around like he's lost. He has good hustle and motivation though.
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Brenton Williams is the most talented player on the team. But Martin does not like him.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:40 PM   #23
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Smith is one of Martin's favorites. Along with Ellington. Smith might be the starting pg when the season starts next year. Basketball skills are not the most important thing with Martin.

E Smith practices very hard, and gives the max effort...

That is what coach is looking for...
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:10 PM   #25
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Effort means nothing if there's no results.

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I think Carrera is our best player. He can finish around the basket, rebound good, even sink the three if left open and has great hustle, of course.

I'd have to go with Brenton as being our best scorer. He's always pretty good with the threes, good free throw shooter, and this year, he has been good at driving the lane and finishing. He just finds ways to put the ball in the basket. He must have an awful attitude or just doesn't practice hard, because I don't see where he is any more of a defensive liability than any of the other guards.

I can see why Leonard doesn't play more even though he's supposed to be a good shooter. It seems every time he's in the game, the other team is getting an easy basket/dunk. Is it on him? I'm not sure, but it is a strange coincidence.

Eric has been struggling but to me Slawson is the worst player on the team right now. I don't think I've ever seen an athletic 6'8 guy that can't hit a 2 foot basket, make a layup, snatch down a board, or even hold on to a good pass. To me, Slawson just doesn't play aggressive at all. I'd like to see him play angry and see if that makes a defense.
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I think Carrera is our best player. He can finish around the basket, rebound good, even sink the three if left open and has great hustle, of course.

I'd have to go with Brenton as being our best scorer. He's always pretty good with the threes, good free throw shooter, and this year, he has been good at driving the lane and finishing. He just finds ways to put the ball in the basket. He must have an awful attitude or just doesn't practice hard, because I don't see where he is any more of a defensive liability than any of the other guards.

I can see why Leonard doesn't play more even though he's supposed to be a good shooter. It seems every time he's in the game, the other team is getting an easy basket/dunk. Is it on him? I'm not sure, but it is a strange coincidence.

Eric has been struggling but to me Slawson is the worst player on the team right now. I don't think I've ever seen an athletic 6'8 guy that can't hit a 2 foot basket, make a layup, snatch down a board, or even hold on to a good pass. To me, Slawson just doesn't play aggressive at all. I'd like to see him play angry and see if that makes a defense.
Brenton does not seem like a kid with an awful attitude. He seems like a quiet, mild mannered young man.

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Old 03-03-2013, 11:25 PM   #28
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kacinas, lchat, carrera, ellington, smith, thornwell, johnson, mkie and ringer. those are the only 9 i gaurantee will be on the roster next year.
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Brenton does not seem like a kid with an awful attitude. He seems like a quiet, mild mannered young man. I think that is probably part of the problem Martin has with him. Martin wants agressive, talkative players, like Carrera and Ellington. Those are the two guys Martin brags about all the time. Brenton could do very well under the right coach. But I don't think that coach is Martin.
I agree with you on this one. Kind of a shotgun marriage situation. Horn settled for Brenton when we missed on some other guards, as he saw some serious talent scoring the rock. Now Frank inherits the guy and things may be awkward.

I think Brenton is our most skilled offensive player, however he shoots from the hip, with sort of a set shot that makes him easy to block. His size isn't great either for a true 2 guard. He is limited on defense as well. It's just not a good situation for him on a team that does not spread the floor well. He's more of a Eddie House kind of player, good for an offense boost for about 15 minutes a game, but only useful on a team with good interior defense (a la House when he played for the Celtics).

I'm OK with whatever Martin decides to do with him. He was never going to play pro ball anyway, so he might as well get down and dirty the Martin way and make the most of the time he's got left. Hopefully he's on track to get a decent degree. He seems like a nice person.
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I've never liked Smith's game myself, but I've never knocked his effort. He's clearly a safety for a football team somewhere though. Anyone know if he played pigskin in hs?
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:33 PM   #31
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All I know is that Williams can put the ball in the hoop and we need that, but I am also 100% behind coach Martin and think he will eventually build us a winner.

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Old 03-04-2013, 12:31 AM   #32
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I think a lot of people are going to question what frank martin is going to do this offseason. But, I really think a roster overhaul is warranted. I only expect a couple of Horns players back next year...Ellington and probably Smith...and Geathers.
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I think a lot of people are going to question what frank martin is going to do this offseason. But, I really think a roster overhaul is warranted. I only expect a couple of Horns players back next year...Ellington and probably Smith...and Geathers.

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Old 03-04-2013, 01:32 AM   #34
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You got to get the teams mind right before anything else works and I think that is what Frank is trying to do. You have to understand his concept and philosophy of basketball and then go all out to do it. Learn Martin Basketball 101. He has been a winner, but only with better talent and with kids who do as instructed.

I remember when Pete Marivich was at LSU. Even without the 3 point shot and a time clock his career scoring average was 44 ppg, still the NCAA record. I mention that because as great as he was in scoring, his teams were not that good, as he was a one man team. Without getting the team involved, it is difficult to win.

He wants players who are more vocal so that they talk to each other on defense, in particular, to help with switchoffs and screens and help on players driving to the basket.

Stay the course. We have no other options, anyway.
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You got to get the teams mind right before anything else works and I think that is what Frank is trying to do. You have to understand his concept and philosophy of basketball and then go all out to do it. Learn Martin Basketball 101. He has been a winner, but only with better talent and with kids who do as instructed.

I remember when Pete Marivich was at LSU. Even without the 3 point shot and a time clock his career scoring average was 44 ppg, still the NCAA record. I mention that because as great as he was in scoring, his teams were not that good, as he was a one man team. Without getting the team involved, it is difficult to win.

He wants players who are more vocal so that they talk to each other on defense, in particular, to help with switchoffs and screens and help on players driving to the basket.

Stay the course. We have no other options, anyway.
Spot on though Pistol did lead them to 22 wins his senior year and Frank Martin is certainly a better coach than Press in my opinion.
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You got to get the teams mind right before anything else works and I think that is what Frank is trying to do. You have to understand his concept and philosophy of basketball and then go all out to do it. Learn Martin Basketball 101. He has been a winner, but only with better talent and with kids who do as instructed.

I remember when Pete Marivich was at LSU. Even without the 3 point shot and a time clock his career scoring average was 44 ppg, still the NCAA record. I mention that because as great as he was in scoring, his teams were not that good, as he was a one man team. Without getting the team involved, it is difficult to win.

He wants players who are more vocal so that they talk to each other on defense, in particular, to help with switchoffs and screens and help on players driving to the basket.

Stay the course. We have no other options, anyway.
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