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Old 03-16-2013, 02:40 PM   #21
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Default Re: Dylan Thompson 2012-13 Highlights

Dylan & Connor= 2 best QBs of SOS's time here. You'd have to go back to Anthony Wright or Steve Tanneyhill to find an arguement.
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Well, I'll go ahead and say it and get blasted.

Comparing the two videos and what we have seen from both QBs so far .. there are throws Dylan made that Connor can't.

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No debate to be made. That's a fact.

Some off the top of my head.

Clemson game
Back shoulder to Bruce
Deep square in to Nick Jones
That bullet on the deep in to Ace to go ahead
The final TD to Bruce (Connor takes off)
The 2 deep outs to Ace

Michigan
The long pass to Nice on the seam route
The final TD to Bruce (Beauty. Dropped it right where it needed to be)

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The deep ball that D. Smith caught in the corner.

There's also some plays Connor can make that Dylan can't. Dylan can't get out of that sack on the final drive against Michigan.

But the thing that Dylan can do 10x better than Connor is the 2nd and 3rd level passes. It has so much potential to be explosive with all this speed
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Default Re: Dylan Thompson 2012-13 Highlights

Yeah i will agree with C2. Dylan is a way better passer. I like the fact that he does his drop and lets it go. Connor can make a run here and there but as for me i like DT to be the QB
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Default Re: Dylan Thompson 2012-13 Highlights

Even though 3 minutes of the 4:50 highlight by Dylan was against ECU and UAB... I got chills watching some of those throws being made. We just haven't seen that in awhile and it's refreshing to see. Love the confidence as well. Both QB's bring a lot to the table. We have a big advantage having both on our team.
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Default Re: Dylan Thompson 2012-13 Highlights

We definitely run more spread option with shaw (obviously because he's a running threat)

With that it brings a lot more blitzing from the defense though. Which is maybe why more of shaw's throws are check downs/ underneath routes and him trying to get out of the pocket. Just seemed like when Thompson was in the defense didn't have to account for the QB running, and played a lot of zone coverage and forced him to have to beat them with his arm. Which he proved he could do. Dylan took his steps, read the defense and made the right throw most of the time. Not to say Shaw couldn't do the same, I just think the defense presents themselves slightly different when Shaw is in.

The thing about that soft zone coverage though, means your going to have chances to run the draw play that spurrier likes so much. Come out throwing, get the linebackers and safeties to back up a bit. Show pass & hit them with the draw play and then play action off that. That's the fun n gun in a nutshell basically. If we can find a nice balance between that with Dylan, and the spread option with Shaw on the zone read it could be unstoppable in my opinion. You get the best of both world's.
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Still think we would have beat LSU and UF with dylan starting.
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Still think we would have beat LSU and UF with dylan starting.

LSU maybe.

We just turned the ball over way too much in the Swamp
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LSU maybe.

We just turned the ball over way too much in the Swamp
Well we fumbled on our one yard line on the first play of the game at UF. Dylan probably wouldn't have done that.
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Still think we would have beat LSU and UF with dylan starting.
I agree, and I'm betting we're not the only ones rethinking that game.
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the music on connor's video about made my ears bleed.
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I agree, and I'm betting we're not the only ones rethinking that game.
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Default Re: Dylan Thompson 2012-13 Highlights

There are not a lot of tight windows that Dylan is throwing into. Most of the time SOS has the right played called. If shaw would just let the ball go.....
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Default Re: Dylan Thompson 2012-13 Highlights

I'm very undecided. I understand the whole theory of Dylan being a better passer than Shaw. But it's not like Dylan threw those yards against decent defenses. And in the Clempsin game, he should have had 2 interceptions that were dropped. I know that he didn't but still.

Shaw does take off early, a lot. His happy feet get the best of him sometimes. I honestly think if Shaw would have played against Climpsin, he would have prob had 250+ passing and 100+ rushing. Think to games like the UGAy, Mizzu, Tenn, and Arkansas. Connor played like a champion.

But who knows, I think both can be winners.
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I'm very undecided. I understand the whole theory of Dylan being a better passer than Shaw. But it's not like Dylan threw those yards against decent defenses. And in the Clempsin game, he should have had 2 interceptions that were dropped. I know that he didn't but still.

Shaw does take off early, a lot. His happy feet get the best of him sometimes. I honestly think if Shaw would have played against Climpsin, he would have prob had 250+ passing and 100+ rushing. Think to games like the UGAy, Mizzu, Tenn, and Arkansas. Connor played like a champion.

But who knows, I think both can be winners.
At the risk of being jumped all over, I'm going to suggest that you also remember LSU and Florida. You cannot know how Shaw would've played against Clemson, and you cannot put interceptions on Thompson that were not made. You do know that we were losing the Outback Bowl with 26 seconds on the clock when Thompson was put in, and you do know that he threw the winning TD pass.

Right now, Thompson's confidence is over the top. I will not speculate how Shaw has been affected by the past season. After all, he knows a lot more about football than I do, and he will have analyzed every game. Realistically, he is probably wondering how LSU would have gone had Thompson played. Shaw is too good not to think about that.
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Blake. GD mother Fing line never gave him a chance.
Wasn't the OL (you watch our OL the past 2 years?)...just not smart playing...mentally something missing, plus not a good as runner as Dylan and obviously Connor.
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Looking forward to see a healthy Connor and experienced Thompson ball so hard next season.

Also looking forward to our 200+ pound backs eat some clock when needed

It is a great time to be a Gamecock fan.
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At the risk of being jumped all over, I'm going to suggest that you also remember LSU and Florida. You cannot know how Shaw would've played against Clemson, and you cannot put interceptions on Thompson that were not made. You do know that we were losing the Outback Bowl with 26 seconds on the clock when Thompson was put in, and you do know that he threw the winning TD pass.

Right now, Thompson's confidence is over the top. I will not speculate how Shaw has been affected by the past season. After all, he knows a lot more about football than I do, and he will have analyzed every game. Realistically, he is probably wondering how LSU would have gone had Thompson played. Shaw is too good not to think about that.
You do remember that Shaw completed a pass on 4th down to Ace Sanders that extended that final drive. And you also remember that Shaw spun out of a sure sack and completed another pass to Ace that kept the drive alive before Thompson's touchdown pass. We don't win the Outback Bowl without Shaw AND Thompson.

I don't understand why everyone seems to be taking sides and bashing the other quarterback (i.e. Shaw can't make reads or Thompson only completed 52% of his passes). We are blessed to have two SEC caliber quarterbacks that both bring different strengths to the table. With Thompson and Shaw, our quarterback situation looks as good as it has in a long time, and we should be thankful for that.
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We don't win the Outback Bowl without Shaw AND Thompson.
Team Shaw-Thompson. Lots of opposing coaches envy us. Nice to have the shoe on the other foot.
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Given that South Carolina's 2012 backup, Dylan Thompson, led the Gamecocks to wins over both Clemson and Michigan to end the year and that starter Connor Shaw will miss all of spring camp after foot surgery, and that Steve Spurrier remains the head coach, there likely wasn't a soul in all the Palmetto State -- the palmetto trees included -- that wasn't expecting a Gamecocks quarterback controversy in 2013.
But just to make it official, Spurrier confirmed to ESPN after his team's first spring practice
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"I really think both of them deserve to play," Spurrier said. "I know you can't just say, ‘Well, we're going to play both quarterbacks this game.' But it worked out in the bowl game. Dylan is going to play. He helped us beat Clemson, and Connor was healthy for the bowl game and re-hurt his foot. They both played well in that game and had a lot of good plays.

"They're both very unselfish young men. It could easily be that they both play throughout the year some way or the other."
Thompson will be a junior this fall, with Shaw entering his senior season after seizing the starter's job from Stephen Garcia halfway through the 2011 season and keeping it until his injured final week of 2012. Shaw is 16-3 as a starter, a perfect 10-0 at home, and finished last season third in the SEC in passing efficiency (behind only AJ McCarron and Aaron Murray) with 435 rushing yards to boot.
In short: Shaw hasn't actually done anything to warrant losing snaps to Thompson (other than suffer a bout of injury misfortune), much less his grip on the starting job. But Thompson all but forced the issue with his play against Clemson and in the bowl. And both quarterbacks surely knew what they signed up for (for better and worse) when they agreed to play for the Ol' Ball Coach.
That doesn't mean it'll be any easier on Gamecocks fans -- or possibly some of the quarterbacks' offensive teammates -- to go through another roller-coaster season under center.

If either QB struggles at any point next season their will be that same din of rumbles that the other QB should be in there tossing it around. I am glad Spurrier isn't beholden to the emotions of the fans. Shaw and Thompson also already know the way Spurrier is so they should not be shocked if they get pulled for the other guy. I am glad they are friends and can take it is stride. They should understand at this point that their next chance is right around the corner.

As I understand it, Thompson is the junior quarterback and Connor is a senior this year. While that should not mean anything - if both qb are hitting, I would like to see Connor get the starts and the majority of the snaps to close out his good career here.

Make no mistake though that I am all about victories first and which ever qb gives us that chance should be in.
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