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Male Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Lexington SC
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I don't see this being that big of deal. As long as the backs actually look at where they are running then it's not a flag. With the head down it puts the player at more risk. I know everyone is saying there isn't that many 'major' injuries, but as pointed out before it's a cumulative effect.
As far as everyone thinking it makes the sport less violent, I think it's more ballsy for the back to actually keep his head up and barrel through someone than to use his helmet as a point of attack. |
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1st Team All-SEC
Male Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Charleston
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Players get paid bank because we want to watch. If there are so many rules like this that the sport is no longer fun to watch the NFL will fall by the wayside.
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R.I.P. Vincent Smith
Male Join Date: Oct 2010
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I look at this rule as leveling the playing field between defenders and ball carriers. I think once the rule is in effect for a while, we will see defenders be able to lower the boom more often without worrying that the ball carrier is going to duck his head into the tackle and end up costing the defense 15 additional yards.
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Walk On
Male Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Atlanta
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This rule is terrible
Imagine how pissed we'd be if some of Latt's runs were called back because of incidental helmet contact after lowering his shoulders (by the way, I realize this rule is NFL only - for now - just using this as a hypothetical). We would be outraged. |
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Cum Laude Cock
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Male Join Date: Sep 2012
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Forever To Thee
Male Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Spartanburg SC
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Well... no runningback is ever going to follow this rule based simply off of how the game has been played the last 60 years... So if a flag gets called or there is a fine, we will all hear about it. Therefore keeping the NFL in the limelight and relevant. Not that it isn't already. ESPN will be talking about one of these plays instead of reflecting on a great game by 2 teams.
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Forever To Thee
Male Join Date: Aug 2009
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No runningback with any level of integrity, in their right mind would ever conform to this rule anyway. I think it's pointless.
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The original "Mastercock"
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you can do it but not outside the pocket
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Two Deep
Male Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Charlotte
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Good rule, just impossible to interpret correctly on a consistant basis in my opinion. It is the same thing defenses have had to adapt and follow with many complaining the offense could still lead with the head while spearing and head to head were made illegal as well as hitting a defensless WR. This rule just like those will lead the refs to err on the side of caution and influence games with idiotic calls based on a loose interpretation of the rule. I do not understand why they do not make them play with the concussion helmets all the time, why would we have players practice in a helmet that protects them better or give them a better helmet to wear after they get a concussion instead of having them wear the best possible protection at all times.
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Banned
Male Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
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This is depressing. Football is now officially dead.
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Banned
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4-Star
Male Join Date: Jan 2010
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I say that if the players want all these benefits then they need to do their part by protecting themselves. Insurance is all about risk. Protecting players helps eliminate risk and therefore players are more likely to be compensated for losses later in life. They can't have their cake and eat it too.
Also, you can lead with the front of your helmet just not the crown. I learned that in pee wee league. Honestly, it makes sense. Now, the problem with these rules has been enforcement by refs. I feel that these plays should by reviewable and just 5 yard penalties. Then, the league should review game film and fine players after the fact on a case by case basis. I've seen too many games effected by these calls that most of the time are wrong and too many hits where no penalty was given. |
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Male Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Irmo
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He lowers his shoulders- he does NOT always lead with the CROWN of his helmet. |
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Walk On
Male Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Atlanta
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It doesn't really matter if he leads with his helmet if they call penalties on incidental helmet contact after he lowers his pads - and you know NFL refs will. They already screw up abunch of helmet to helmet calls on defenders.
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Marcus will be fine. |
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Forever To Thee
Male Join Date: Aug 2009
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The NFL is going to go from throwing flags to having players wear them in 20 years..
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Walk On
Male Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Atlanta
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1st Team All-SEC
Male Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Amelia Island Fl.
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There goes the neighborhood
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Sweet Carolina Girl
Female Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: SC
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Obviously I've never played football, so I have a question about the no leading with the helmet thing. It's natural to lean forward when you are trying to run fast. It seems to me it will be a judgement call on the ref's part as to if the player is just trying to go faster, or leading with the crown of the helmet. Furthermore, if you can't stick your neck out and fall forward, how can the ball carrier try to get extra yards?
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