COCKYTALK SPRING PRACTICE REPORT 3/21/13 ( practice #4)

[CockyinCharge]

You Have The weirdest Agenda Ever...

Why Waste your time When Noone agrees Or Cares?

[crowcutta]

great report as always. wanted to add that rory spells it as "busta". he made a point of correcting the media late last year.

we didnt have any early enrollee linebackers this year. the 3 early enrollees were qb connor mitch, ol dj park, and db ronnie martin.

[jfbreb94]

Thank you spurt. You da man.

[bhs04]

Originally Posted by USCNowAndForever

I knew that someone was going to post that eventually. Lol. Points to you.

It really sounds like he just had a bad practice. If it continues to be an issue, maybe there is something there with the offense, but even then, fumbled snaps sounds more like not having enough reps with the shotgun snap, or concentration issues. The first one is correctable. Get more reps with the shotgun snap. The second one could be any number of things, but knowing how hostile Spurrier is with his quarterbacks, it would not surprise me if Brendan is nervous.

And what's this about push-ups? These are grown men, and the coaches have them doing push-ups? Not to mention making them do push-ups because they made a performance error. It's one thing to punish people with physical exercise for breaking team rules (and even that I have an issue with), but seriously, punishing grown men for performance errors with push-ups?

Isn't the coaching staff's job to facilitate better performance? How is making players nervous going to facilitate better performance? If anything, it just makes them more uptight, which will lead to more mistakes.

Did Bill Walsh make Jerry Rice do push-ups if he dropped a pass in practice?

Did Phil Jackson make Michael Jordan do push-ups if he missed a shot in practice?

Did John Wooden make Bill Walton do push-ups if he missed a shot in practice?

Does Bill Belichick make Tom Brady do push-ups if he throws a bad pass in practice?

During Jimmie Johnson's 5 consecutive NASCAR Cup titles, Chad Knaus kept the pit crew together, and the whole team in general always had a never quit, always comeback mentality. Starting in 2011, Chad Knaus changed the way he ran the pit crew. He put pressure on everyone perform correctly; if they did not, they got replaced.

4 of the 5 leaders that I mentioned above were far more successful at the professional level than Spurrier ever was. Wooden coached on the college level, but was also more successful than Spurrier. I'm sure someone will bring up the cheating on the part of the #48 team and the UCLA men's basketball team, but still, you have to be doing something right to be in position for the cheating to help you win. If the coaching and talent is sub-par, the cheating is not going to help you suddenly win 10 national titles. The fact that Wooden was able to win that many titles without treating his players in a hostile manner speaks volumes to me.

If you want a fairer comparison, then what about Wooden vs Knight? Knight and Spurrier are similar in that they have both always ran clean programs, they have both achieved success at the collegiate level, and they have both have treated their players in a hostile manner.

Wooden won 10 national titles, Bobby Knight won 3 national titles.

Spurticus, just so you know, I am not attacking you. I believe what you said about the push-ups. I just don't agree with the players having to do push-ups.

Thanks for the practice report!

Ummm.... They're not grown men, they're adults, but aside from a few fifth year seniors I don't think you could call any of em "grown men". Spurrier is teaching them to be grown men.

I guess we don't have I ask if you were in the military now do we.

And also, I think it is performance building. It is teaching them to hold themselves accountable. Once they can hold themselves accountable they can then hold their teammates accountable, and a team is only as strong as their leaders push them to be.

[PageUSC]

Originally Posted by Spurticus

I think they wanted to use TJ Gurley as a FS mainly, but with him out
of service right now, they've been using a lot of little used players and
walkons at Free Safety like Kadetrix Marcus, Jevonn Dukes and Garrett
Shank. I think using Elder at FS is basically out of necessity right now.

Marcus is not a little used or walk on player. He is a projected starter at S opposite Brison Williams until Gurley gets back.

Regards to Chaz he was recruited as a cb yea but he has the size and ability to play S because Ward likes bigger CBs.

[PageUSC]

Originally Posted by cockymac

It's late so I can't think of his name, but how is the ee freshman linebacker looking?

Originally Posted by Spurticus

If you're talking about Kelvin Rainey He's doing exceptionally well. I can't
say for certain but I think you'll see him as the starting Middle Linebacker.

If you're talking about Jordan Diggs, he has either been quiet the past
two practices or not used as much...Or he may be out with an injury.
Had a very good practice last the first practice I attended, but haven't
seen him do anything this week so far. ...He is listed as a SPUR/OLB

If you're talking about TJ Holloman, he is backing up Rainey at MLB and
has done OK, but from what little I've seen so far, and think Kaiwan
Lewis is a very solid #2 MLB. He is a Soph

The only Ee freshman LB we have is Larenz Bryant.

And Lewis will be a starter at 1 of the lb spots. Good to hear Rainey is doing ok now too. We are super thin there until/if Cooper returns next year.

[Cocklover]

Great report Spurt. Thanks!

[cockypanther]

Originally Posted by USCNowAndForever

I knew that someone was going to post that eventually. Lol. Points to you.

It really sounds like he just had a bad practice. If it continues to be an issue, maybe there is something there with the offense, but even then, fumbled snaps sounds more like not having enough reps with the shotgun snap, or concentration issues. The first one is correctable. Get more reps with the shotgun snap. The second one could be any number of things, but knowing how hostile Spurrier is with his quarterbacks, it would not surprise me if Brendan is nervous.

And what's this about push-ups? These are grown men, and the coaches have them doing push-ups? Not to mention making them do push-ups because they made a performance error. It's one thing to punish people with physical exercise for breaking team rules (and even that I have an issue with), but seriously, punishing grown men for performance errors with push-ups?

Isn't the coaching staff's job to facilitate better performance? How is making players nervous going to facilitate better performance? If anything, it just makes them more uptight, which will lead to more mistakes.

Did Bill Walsh make Jerry Rice do push-ups if he dropped a pass in practice?

Did Phil Jackson make Michael Jordan do push-ups if he missed a shot in practice?

Did John Wooden make Bill Walton do push-ups if he missed a shot in practice?

Does Bill Belichick make Tom Brady do push-ups if he throws a bad pass in practice?

During Jimmie Johnson's 5 consecutive NASCAR Cup titles, Chad Knaus kept the pit crew together, and the whole team in general always had a never quit, always comeback mentality. Starting in 2011, Chad Knaus changed the way he ran the pit crew. He put pressure on everyone perform correctly; if they did not, they got replaced.

4 of the 5 leaders that I mentioned above were far more successful at the professional level than Spurrier ever was. Wooden coached on the college level, but was also more successful than Spurrier. I'm sure someone will bring up the cheating on the part of the #48 team and the UCLA men's basketball team, but still, you have to be doing something right to be in position for the cheating to help you win. If the coaching and talent is sub-par, the cheating is not going to help you suddenly win 10 national titles. The fact that Wooden was able to win that many titles without treating his players in a hostile manner speaks volumes to me.

If you want a fairer comparison, then what about Wooden vs Knight? Knight and Spurrier are similar in that they have both always ran clean programs, they have both achieved success at the collegiate level, and they have both have treated their players in a hostile manner.

Wooden won 10 national titles, Bobby Knight won 3 national titles.

Spurticus, just so you know, I am not attacking you. I believe what you said about the push-ups. I just don't agree with the players having to do push-ups.

Thanks for the practice report!

Worst.Post.Ever.

Thanks for the rambling response of nothingness!

[Spurticus]

Originally Posted by USCNowAndForever

I knew that someone was going to post that eventually. Lol. Points to you.

It really sounds like he just had a bad practice. If it continues to be an issue, maybe there is something there with the offense, but even then, fumbled snaps sounds more like not having enough reps with the shotgun snap, or concentration issues. The first one is correctable. Get more reps with the shotgun snap. The second one could be any number of things, but knowing how hostile Spurrier is with his quarterbacks, it would not surprise me if Brendan is nervous.

And what's this about push-ups? These are grown men, and the coaches have them doing push-ups? Not to mention making them do push-ups because they made a performance error. It's one thing to punish people with physical exercise for breaking team rules (and even that I have an issue with), but seriously, punishing grown men for performance errors with push-ups?

Isn't the coaching staff's job to facilitate better performance? How is making players nervous going to facilitate better performance? If anything, it just makes them more uptight, which will lead to more mistakes.

Did Bill Walsh make Jerry Rice do push-ups if he dropped a pass in practice?

Did Phil Jackson make Michael Jordan do push-ups if he missed a shot in practice?

Did John Wooden make Bill Walton do push-ups if he missed a shot in practice?

Does Bill Belichick make Tom Brady do push-ups if he throws a bad pass in practice?

During Jimmie Johnson's 5 consecutive NASCAR Cup titles, Chad Knaus kept the pit crew together, and the whole team in general always had a never quit, always comeback mentality. Starting in 2011, Chad Knaus changed the way he ran the pit crew. He put pressure on everyone perform correctly; if they did not, they got replaced.

4 of the 5 leaders that I mentioned above were far more successful at the professional level than Spurrier ever was. Wooden coached on the college level, but was also more successful than Spurrier. I'm sure someone will bring up the cheating on the part of the #48 team and the UCLA men's basketball team, but still, you have to be doing something right to be in position for the cheating to help you win. If the coaching and talent is sub-par, the cheating is not going to help you suddenly win 10 national titles. The fact that Wooden was able to win that many titles without treating his players in a hostile manner speaks volumes to me.

If you want a fairer comparison, then what about Wooden vs Knight? Knight and Spurrier are similar in that they have both always ran clean programs, they have both achieved success at the collegiate level, and they have both have treated their players in a hostile manner.

Wooden won 10 national titles, Bobby Knight won 3 national titles.

Spurticus, just so you know, I am not attacking you. I believe what you said about the push-ups. I just don't agree with the players having to do push-ups.

Thanks for the practice report!

Thanks for the imput

And what's this about push-ups? These are grown men, and the coaches have them doing push-ups? Not to mention making them do push-ups because they made a performance error. It's one thing to punish people with physical exercise for breaking team rules (and even that I have an issue with), but seriously, punishing grown men for performance errors with push-ups?

I guess we're going to have a difference of Opinion on this. It has worked
for the Military and organized sports of all kinds at all levels for decades
so I don't have an issue with it myself. It's easier for me to watch a
guy doing some kind of mild negative reinforcement like push ups instead
of watching them drop punts and turn it over the oppostion during
games. .... Some people would think it's unfair for a basketball coach
to have the rest of his team, coaching staff and managers standing
along the baseline right under the basket shouting obsenities and laughing
at the player he has practicing free throws....Until that same player
drains both ends of a one and one on an oppositions court in the final
seconds of a big game.

Not laughing at your statement above Now&forever, just at the thought
that popped into my head when you said

These are grown men, and the coaches have them doing push-ups?

I just think it's funny that some fans (myself included) look at these
players as Grown, yet as soon as one of them gets into trouble, the
fans immediatley start the "These are just college kids out on their
own for the fist time....cut them a break"

Just read through the Garcia interview thread yesterday and people
were still refering to Garcia as "a kid gone wrong" in his senior season.
22 years old with a child, and because he made mistake....he was a kid.

I (like yourself) think that an 18/19 year old freshman is more than
Just a kid.

[Mr. Belvedere]

Originally Posted by USCNowAndForever

I knew that someone was going to post that eventually. Lol. Points to you.

It really sounds like he just had a bad practice. If it continues to be an issue, maybe there is something there with the offense, but even then, fumbled snaps sounds more like not having enough reps with the shotgun snap, or concentration issues. The first one is correctable. Get more reps with the shotgun snap. The second one could be any number of things, but knowing how hostile Spurrier is with his quarterbacks, it would not surprise me if Brendan is nervous.

And what's this about push-ups? These are grown men, and the coaches have them doing push-ups? Not to mention making them do push-ups because they made a performance error. It's one thing to punish people with physical exercise for breaking team rules (and even that I have an issue with), but seriously, punishing grown men for performance errors with push-ups?

Isn't the coaching staff's job to facilitate better performance? How is making players nervous going to facilitate better performance? If anything, it just makes them more uptight, which will lead to more mistakes.

Did Bill Walsh make Jerry Rice do push-ups if he dropped a pass in practice?

Did Phil Jackson make Michael Jordan do push-ups if he missed a shot in practice?

Did John Wooden make Bill Walton do push-ups if he missed a shot in practice?

Does Bill Belichick make Tom Brady do push-ups if he throws a bad pass in practice?

During Jimmie Johnson's 5 consecutive NASCAR Cup titles, Chad Knaus kept the pit crew together, and the whole team in general always had a never quit, always comeback mentality. Starting in 2011, Chad Knaus changed the way he ran the pit crew. He put pressure on everyone perform correctly; if they did not, they got replaced.

4 of the 5 leaders that I mentioned above were far more successful at the professional level than Spurrier ever was. Wooden coached on the college level, but was also more successful than Spurrier. I'm sure someone will bring up the cheating on the part of the #48 team and the UCLA men's basketball team, but still, you have to be doing something right to be in position for the cheating to help you win. If the coaching and talent is sub-par, the cheating is not going to help you suddenly win 10 national titles. The fact that Wooden was able to win that many titles without treating his players in a hostile manner speaks volumes to me.

If you want a fairer comparison, then what about Wooden vs Knight? Knight and Spurrier are similar in that they have both always ran clean programs, they have both achieved success at the collegiate level, and they have both have treated their players in a hostile manner.

Wooden won 10 national titles, Bobby Knight won 3 national titles.

Spurticus, just so you know, I am not attacking you. I believe what you said about the push-ups. I just don't agree with the players having to do push-ups.

Thanks for the practice report!

You apparently have never played a sport.

What a bunch of drivel.....

This post is a direct reflection of our screwed up society. Bring the top down in order to appease the bottom and create an environment of mediocrity.

One of our players did push ups DURING A GAME because he muffed an INT. He got flagged, but the message was clear. You don't settle for mediocrity if you want to be the best.

[Lonnie]

2x post.

[Lonnie]

Originally Posted by USCNowAndForever

And what's this about push-ups? These are grown men, and the coaches have them doing push-ups? Not to mention making them do push-ups because they made a performance error. It's one thing to punish people with physical exercise for breaking team rules (and even that I have an issue with), but seriously, punishing grown men for performance errors with push-ups?

I'm positive proof that a few well timed push-ups to correct his performance errors can do wonders for a young man's concentration under situations of extreme pressure and that he can carry those lessons forward to other points in his life.

Signed,
Lonnie
The Citadel, Class of 1991.

[airborne09]

Doing push-ups for a missed anything sure as hell isn't bad for these kids or whatever you want to call them.It's accountability.

[richiec]

I think it was Chris Culliver who missed a wide open interception, dropped down & did 10 push-ups & probably had to do many more the next day at practice after the 15 yard penalty! I remember saying WTH about the miss & then laughing at the push-ups, the another WTH when they threw the flag!

[Cheezy]

Originally Posted by richiec

I think it was Chris Culliver who missed a wide open interception, dropped down & did 10 push-ups & probably had to do many more the next day at practice after the 15 yard penalty! I remember saying WTH about the miss & then laughing at the push-ups, the another WTH when they threw the flag!

That was Emanuel Cook.

[Jwilson]

Yeah, I was just throwing on excuses. Taking shots in the dark.

Shoot, Spurt, for a second there, I though I was on Taternet. LOL.

[BornCocky'86]

Haven't seen it mentioned but heard Cody Waldrop has a lot of work to do on his snaps. Reportedly, he's snapping it too hard and low bc he's trying to get to his blocks quicker.

Think a lot of people forget that we lose a 4 yr starter in TJ Johnson. Replacing him is going to be huge.

Also, Waldrop said personally the hardest guy he's had to block this far has been Gerald Dixon Jr.

[Gamecocks111]

I just listened to coach spurriers practice press conference and it sounded like the Saturday scrimmage might not happen because of the weather. Does anyone know if it is still going to be played?

[Cock Kool-Aid]

Can USCNowAndForever be banned just for being annoying?

[gocockswyn]

[quote=USCNowAndForever;3713969]I knew that someone was going to post that eventually. Lol. Points to you.


And what's this about push-ups? These are grown men, and the coaches have them doing push-ups? Not to mention making them do push-ups because they made a performance error. It's one thing to punish people with physical exercise for breaking team rules (and even that I have an issue with), but seriously, punishing grown men for performance errors with push-ups?

Isn't the coaching staff's job to facilitate better performance? How is making players nervous going to facilitate better performance? If anything, it just makes them more uptight, which will lead to more mistakes.




I sometimes think that people are going to be nervous no matter what. They will have to get over jitters to play under much much more stress in a real SEC game. There is a fine balance of being too critical and hurting their confidence though. I thought the push-ups were a good way to get the player to focus and get exercise at the same time.

Thank you Spurticus for another great report.