Originally Posted by 2000grad
Fumbling it forward is not a pass attempt. You have to go to the definition set forth in the rule book of a pass and a fumble.
ARTICLE 1. To fumble the ball is to lose player possession by any act other
than passing, kicking or successful handing (A.R. 2-19-2-I and A.R. 4-1-3-I).
The status of the ball is a fumble.
Forward and Backward Pass
ARTICLE 2. a. A pass is forward if the ball first strikes the ground, a player,
an official or anything else beyond the spot where the ball is released. All other
passes are backward passes. When in question a pass thrown in or behind the
neutral zone is forward rather than a backward.
b. When a Team A player is holding the ball to pass it forward toward the
neutral zone, any intentional forward movement of his hand or arm with the
ball firmly in his control starts the forward pass. If a Team B player contacts
the passer or ball after forward movement begins and the ball leaves the
passer’s hand, a forward pass is ruled regardless of where the ball strikes
the ground or a player (A.R. 2-19-2-I).
c. When in question, the ball is passed and not fumbled during an attempted
Did you read what I wrote, the definition is about possession of the ball as I said in my post! You said fumbling the ball forward is not a pass attempt and that is my point, the young man carrying the ball for ut had not attempted to move his arm forward before the contact from Clowney and it is debatable if he had control when he appears to just sling it forward while in the grasp of a defender.