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Old 12-02-2013, 11:15 PM   #141
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I dont think Dylan is a lock though I'm a big fan of his being that my wife is from his hometown. In his defense, I think last year the early games against East Carolina and UAB gave Dylan consistent reps and confidence. This year he didnt get any consistent reps outside of the second half UCF and three quarters of the Mizzou game where he struggled. I'm fine with him getting the starting job but I don't think Mitch and Nos are going to concede it easily.
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IMO,Nos starts............just a hunch
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:22 PM   #143
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Guess this where that next season who is who thread starts.. im going with Connor Mitch.
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also, are you counting rushing touchdowns in your analysis of how often his passes resulted in touchdowns? You probably want to re thing that analysis.

The actual numbers are:
89 attemps to get 4 tds (22.25 attempts per td) in 2013
127 attempts to get 10 tds (12.7 attemps per td) in 2012

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89 attemps to get 3 ints (29.7 attempts per int) in 2013
127 attempts to get 2 ints (63.5 attempts per int) in 2012

Wow you do make a powerful argument!
Not an argument and yes I included rushing TD's as they would be scores, I also included fumbles lost as turnovers as they would be turnovers. I see no argument to have when discussing if Thompson was better this year or last year, nothing good comes from it and it is pointless as they are not comparing apples to apples IMO I believe Dylan will be the starter and will have a very good year since he knows the offense, will have spent a spring, summer and fall practicing with the 1st team and getting in sync with the receivers, not to mention the talent we should have on the OL. The only debate I would have with your comments or opinion of him playing terrible against mizz.
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Too early to make a prediction or name my favorite but I think even if Dylan is the front runner, he is not a lock. I think if Mitch or Nossovich come on strong and impress the HBC anything is possible.
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Too early to make a prediction or name my favorite but I think even if Dylan is the front runner, he is not a lock. I think if Mitch or Nossovich come on strong and impress the HBC anything is possible.
With SOS as coach, there's no question that there Dylan starting isn't a stone cold lock. If Mitch or Nosovitch outperform him, SOS won't hesitate to pull that trigger.
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:21 AM   #147
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It will be a great off season to see who our next QB will be. Spurrier has said many times his philosophy on starters is that it is their job until they lose it. See Garcia! Or when a position has not been filled with a clear cut starter it is up for grabs. Spurrier said that Dylan is not the starting QB and whoever proves themselves worthy will be the starter. Dylan has only started in the place of Shaw only when Shaw was hurt. This year Shaw had to come in the Missouri game to save it.

Dylan will start out the same as everyone else. The only thing he has over the rest is more game experience. Who knows how it will turn out a walk on could come in and take over if Spurrier thinks he has what it takes to win games.

Think I'm wrong call Spurrier yourself and see what he says. I bet it would sound pretty familiar to the above.
I did...privately it's DT job to lose.....publicly it's an even competition.
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:54 AM   #148
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Not an argument and yes I included rushing TD's as they would be scores, I also included fumbles lost as turnovers as they would be turnovers. I see no argument to have when discussing if Thompson was better this year or last year, nothing good comes from it and it is pointless as they are not comparing apples to apples IMO I believe Dylan will be the starter and will have a very good year since he knows the offense, will have spent a spring, summer and fall practicing with the 1st team and getting in sync with the receivers, not to mention the talent we should have on the OL. The only debate I would have with your comments or opinion of him playing terrible against mizz.
but you divided by passing attempts and you cant run for a td on a passing attempt so your analysis is innately flawed. the proper analysis shows his passing stats regressed. if you want to include rushing touchdowns then you need to divide by pass attempts plus carries. and you disagreed with my statement that his skills had regressed.
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:51 PM   #149
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Default Re: Is Dylan a lock for being our starting QB next season?

I'm a big believer in maximizing production to eligibility years. If Mitch is the guy going forward (he is) then he should start next season. I wouldn't want him being a junior and still learning on the job.

We got 2.5 years out of Shaw as the starter, so hopefully we can get a full 3 out of Mitch.

I think Dylan can be very good, but I'm not sure it's worth sacrificing another year of Mitch's eligibility.
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If it means winning a championship it is. Connor would be a RS Soph with a little bit of game experience going into 2015.
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I don't think starting Dylan equates to winning a national championship.
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and he gives us the best opportunity. He is a 5th year senior, works hard, knows the offense, and has shown he can be a very good passer. Does he need to develop consistency? Sure does, but he gets one more offseason with Spurrier/Mangus to sharpen up.

Spurrier is not going to hold the offense back with an inexperienced QB right off the bat especially with opening games against aTm and Georgia. HOME games at that. Dylan will have to play himself out of the starting job or USC is going to have to play itself out of the SEC East race for the youth movement to begin.

You guys don't remember how much Connor Shaw struggled his 1/2 season as the starter? His sub 100 yard passing performances? WITH Alshon Jeffery I might add. Spurrier isn't going to put the team in that situation next year. Not when he has a veteran and a ridiculous amount of talent returning.
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but you divided by passing attempts and you cant run for a td on a passing attempt so your analysis is innately flawed. the proper analysis shows his passing stats regressed. if you want to include rushing touchdowns then you need to divide by pass attempts plus carries. and you disagreed with my statement that his skills had regressed.
I have explained enough to you, in one of your posts you said Dylan will start next year so let it go, I disagree that he played bad against mizz as you said and disagree he regressed this year compared to last since it is impossible to compare them. Innately flawed would have you throw out the INT Thompson threw on 4th and 28 to end the 1st half against ucf since you would not punt with no time on the clock....little things like that skew stats same as running a QB sweep for a TD instead of throwing it so I include those scores as well as fumbles in my analysis that you call innately flawed....I'm curious what you think made Thompson go from the QB you enjoyed and I watched wax clemsux in clemsux to what you call a regressed QB in 12 months?
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and he gives us the best opportunity. He is a 5th year senior, works hard, knows the offense, and has shown he can be a very good passer. Does he need to develop consistency? Sure does, but he gets one more offseason with Spurrier/Mangus to sharpen up.

Spurrier is not going to hold the offense back with an inexperienced QB right off the bat especially with opening games against aTm and Georgia. HOME games at that. Dylan will have to play himself out of the starting job or USC is going to have to play itself out of the SEC East race for the youth movement to begin.

You guys don't remember how much Connor Shaw struggled his 1/2 season as the starter? His sub 100 yard passing performances? WITH Alshon Jeffery I might add. Spurrier isn't going to put the team in that situation next year. Not when he has a veteran and a ridiculous amount of talent returning.
^^^^This, you have to play consistently to become consistent, Thompson will be a very good QB after a spring, summer and fall as "the man", same as Shaw did!
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and he gives us the best opportunity. He is a 5th year senior, works hard, knows the offense, and has shown he can be a very good passer. Does he need to develop consistency? Sure does, but he gets one more offseason with Spurrier/Mangus to sharpen up.

Spurrier is not going to hold the offense back with an inexperienced QB right off the bat especially with opening games against aTm and Georgia. HOME games at that. Dylan will have to play himself out of the starting job or USC is going to have to play itself out of the SEC East race for the youth movement to begin.

You guys don't remember how much Connor Shaw struggled his 1/2 season as the starter? His sub 100 yard passing performances? WITH Alshon Jeffery I might add. Spurrier isn't going to put the team in that situation next year. Not when he has a veteran and a ridiculous amount of talent returning.
I agree. Many of the posters are forgetting that DT went 23-41 for 315 yards, three touchdowns and an interception against Clemson last year, AT Clemson. He hasn't lost that ability. He just hasn't had as many chances this year.
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That is a pretty lame attempt. If anything you should have put Orht at #4
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I can see were people get the growing pains deal from. How many growing pains did Johnny Manziel and Jameis Winston have over the past couple of years though? Now be it that Connor Mitch may not be as athletic as those two. Wouldnt it be better to put Connor Mitch in there with a bucnch of experienced guys than completely starting brand new with everyone in 2015? That way when 2015 comes Mitch will be an experienced guy leading the young guns. Also as someone else posted earlier I dont think Steve Spurrier brought Connor Mitch in to sit on the bench, he was the hand chosen one by Spurrier and I think that speeks volume.
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I agree. Many of the posters are forgetting that DT went 23-41 for 315 yards, three touchdowns and an interception against Clemson last year, AT Clemson. He hasn't lost that ability. He just hasn't had as many chances this year.
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