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Old 12-03-2013, 04:15 PM   #21
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

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If I am not mistaken, the snappier is allowed to do that
You are mistaken. Its something that is specifically watched for pre-snap. We got away with one. If we could get away with a few more, maybe we could call it even for the Gardner push off.
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Old 12-03-2013, 04:23 PM   #22
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Old 12-03-2013, 04:25 PM   #23
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

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That is just this years excuse. Next year they will find another...

Absolutely agree. We were on our own 34 when the offsides was called. We still had to go 66 more yards to score. If they couldn't stop us then, why do they think they would have stopped us on 4th and 1. Even if they call it a false start, we would have punted and taken the ball away from them again. We only did it on 6 damn possessions. I am confounded at why they thought that one penalty changed the game. It wouldn't have stopped the ton of turnovers that came after. Once we got the lead and the ball we ran the clock.
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Old 12-03-2013, 04:39 PM   #24
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Remind them that they were ACC refs.
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Old 12-03-2013, 04:56 PM   #25
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

Remind them that when we stopped them and they called us offsides Tajh was the one that moved go look at that call
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Old 12-03-2013, 05:02 PM   #26
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

Just remind them that the score board, press, and the rest college football gave us credit for the win. If you want to beat us, just score more points. Thats how you get credit for a win.
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

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#9 was barely offsides when we stuffed them on 4th down. I thought it was a really well officiated game with the exception of needing a little bit more mobility. The UNC game was well officiated as well. SEC office of officials should be looking to poach some ACC crews.
i wondered if the umpire was their 12th man on defense
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

On the one they said USC's center flinched his hand, they're right. We got away with one on that call. The center did indeed flinch his hand. Saw it on the replay.

But, it didn't matter at all. Every game has 10-12 plays that could go either way, and that was one. Shaq Roland caught that long ball that they didn't give us. Clowney was getting held all night with no calls. Beasley lined up in the neutral zone a few times, and on one sack, he was beyond the neutral zone at the snap and they didn't call it. He was guessing the snap count, and doing a damn good job, but they never flagged it.


As some UFC fighters say when a fight is decided by the judges: "Win the fight, so the judges don't decide it for you." And that's the point. Don't blame the refs. If you beat a team good enough, those few bad calls wont matter.
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

Tell them to look on the bright side. That call saved Tajh from throwing another interception.
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Old 12-03-2013, 05:40 PM   #30
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

on their 4th down conversion, Boyd shuffles back before the ball is snapped and should've been called for a false start...I'm sure that is what Golightly saw when he started early.
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Old 12-03-2013, 09:34 PM   #31
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Absolutely agree. We were on our own 34 when the offsides was called. We still had to go 66 more yards to score. If they couldn't stop us then, why do they think they would have stopped us on 4th and 1. Even if they call it a false start, we would have punted and taken the ball away from them again. We only did it on 6 damn possessions. I am confounded at why they thought that one penalty changed the game. It wouldn't have stopped the ton of turnovers that came after. Once we got the lead and the ball we ran the clock.
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

If you can reason that an offsides cost you the game in a 14 point loss, then there isnt much hope for you.
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Remind them that when we stopped them and they called us offsides Tajh was the one that moved go look at that call
Which, btw, led to their tieing td in the 3rd qtr.
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Old 12-03-2013, 09:50 PM   #34
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

You can also remind them that we didn't even TRY to move the ball, much less score, the last two times we had the ball and SOS LOVES to strike right after a turn over.

We could have beaten them 45-17 if we had wanted to.
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Old 12-03-2013, 09:54 PM   #35
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Please refer to my signature.
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

I mean even the announcers called it. Waldrop (or Stadnik, I forget) did a little motion and fake count which drew the DT offsides. It is technically illegal, but the commentators gave us high praise. It's a veteran move to draw someone offsides in that manner and get way with it.

Sort of like how Alshon uses his hands to "create separation"... is it illegal? By the books, probably yea. But if you're good enough and sneaky enough to get away with it, then do it
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

Just remind the Clemson fan that if we were called for that penalty, it might have led to us punting on 4th down...and we all know how that tended to turn out
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Old 12-04-2013, 12:53 AM   #38
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Tell them " that's good coaching " , then remind them again to not forget that Spurrier is a genius
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You can also remind them that we didn't even TRY to move the ball, much less score, the last two times we had the ball and SOS LOVES to strike right after a turn over.

We could have beaten them 45-17 if we had wanted to.
I really wanted to see Spurrier go deep when we got the first pick in the fourth. We were inside the 50 and they were putting 10 in the box. Thought we'd playaction and go deep to Roland.
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I've got a couple of co-workers who are Clemson fans that have already trying to reason away thier loss with excuses. One example is the 4th down where they were called off sides. One claims the center moved his hand which would have been offensive offsides. I know the center barked out a signal but i didn't see the movement. Anyone got a link to a video that might show the play.
Go to youtube and google Rod Gardner/Andre Goodman. Show them that video and tell them to shut the hell up.
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