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Old 12-04-2013, 09:43 AM   #41
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

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If you can reason that an offsides cost you the game in a 14 point loss, then there isnt much hope for you.
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:59 AM   #43
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

There is always...ALWAYS a bad call that costs Clemson the game when they lose. I bet that there were bad calls early in the FSU game this year and the Orange Blowout that turned the games in favor of FSU and WVU.
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

Just tell them they are exactly right, and if they send the game tape to the chief of ACC officials along with a letter stating why they feel cheated, then I'm sure they will overturn our win immediately. It will be perfectly obvious that the play directly resulted in their 2 TD loss and all the 4th quarter turnovers. I'm sure that was on Tajh's mind as he threw those 2 INTs. Perhaps they should sue SOS for mental pain and suffering!

That should make them feel much better :)
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:55 AM   #45
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Their whining is music to my ears.
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Old 12-04-2013, 12:37 PM   #46
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Old 12-04-2013, 12:40 PM   #47
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

Cody did move, but it was perfectly legal, as all he did was bark out a signal and clench his fist. That's it.

They got away with a much worse one on their 4th and 1 when Watkins moved early and Clowney was called.
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Old 12-04-2013, 01:33 PM   #48
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

Yes the center did flinch. He moves his left hand when he barks out the cadence. Funny thing is my buddy just finished his senior year at North Greenville and he interned at USC last summer. He's a clemson fan but is all about making contacts for future jobs and while he was in Columbia he worked with Stadnik and taught him that flinch move.
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If you can reason that an offsides cost you the game in a 14 point loss, then there isnt much hope for you.
It's like how some Clemson fans will say about the 2011 game, "We would have beaten you all if Watkins caught that long ball".
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Old 12-04-2013, 02:01 PM   #50
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Laugh at them.

Tell them they got away with "The Push Off" for years and now we have "The Twitch".

Now they know how it feels. Get use to it.
The push off was a desperation play with little time left to win the game with a fg. Not even remotely close to the same.

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Yes the center did flinch. He moves his left hand when he barks out the cadence. Funny thing is my buddy just finished his senior year at North Greenville and he interned at USC last summer. He's a clemson fan but is all about making contacts for future jobs and while he was in Columbia he worked with Stadnik and taught him that flinch move.
did he teach it to Cody Waldrop too who was actually playing?
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Old 12-04-2013, 02:10 PM   #51
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

Yes he did sorry I thought Stadnik was the one playing. He worked with all the centers because that's what he played at North Greenville the past 4 years. He's kicking himself for it now, I guess he didn't figure they'd use it against clemson.
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Old 12-04-2013, 03:19 PM   #52
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

There you have it folks. Without the instruction of a former center from North Greenville who is also a Clemson fan we would have lost.
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Old 12-04-2013, 03:46 PM   #53
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Did we ever get the name of who the umpire was that was trying to help Clemson all game long.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:00 PM   #54
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

I haven't seen the replay yet... and I can't remember exactly where in the game it is. Just know it was later in the game. Can someone help me out with exactly when it was?
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:11 PM   #55
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

They are technically correct. Center should have been called for false start.

...and our DBs should have been called for interfering with a pass three different times by classlessly snatching the ball out of mid air while it was travelling between Tajh and his intended receiver. Oh, and we should have been called for interrupting Tajh's attempt to peacefully kneel in prayer following his run by grabbing at his hands and removing the sacred vessel. Oh, and let's not forget the unsportsmanlike manner in which we used evil thoughts to force Clemson's punt retuner to drop the football.

I mean, Clemson lost the game, but at least they have class.
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

The center moved and it should have been called but it wasn't. Stuff happens. That didn't cost them the game. If anything it saved them another turnover or two. They should be thanking the refs for not putting the ball back in their hands.
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

Ask him about Shaq Rolands catch that "wasn't" a catch. Ask him about the ref's getting in the way of our players, not once, but twice.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:18 PM   #58
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I wish that they would simply admit that we are a pretty good football team and thank us for continuing a home and home series with a team is becoming another easy non-conference win...I can dream can't I?
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:31 PM   #59
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Schedule homecoming during the clemsux game in 2015, they would lose it
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Old 12-04-2013, 05:05 PM   #60
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Default Re: Clemson Fans whining about the 4th down,

So, when the refs ruled the NC State player out of bounds on that long run and totally killed their momentium, one bad call didnt change the outcome of a game (even though it took back 6 points) yet, a "offsides" call, lost them the game... something does not quite add up.... What D-1 player really falls for the center yelling out, he should have been looking at the ball, not listing to the center.. they teach that in youth ball...
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