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Old 12-04-2013, 06:02 PM   #361
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WOW, so in your mind if you steal just a little it is OK? If every person who walked into a BK took a courtesy sip instead of paying the $1 for a soda, he did not take a courtesy, since he paid for nothing, he stole condiment cups and drank soda from them....Stealing is stealing and to throw in he laughed at the person who asked him to stop goes a long way in showing character, to condone it and say the person who reported should be pistol whipped goes a long way in showing yours!
Not laughing at theft, just the fact that law enforcement was called because of this incident. Law enforcement is overburdened in most jurisdictions as it is....... They don't need to be running to fast food restaurants every time someone slips a couple of extra packets of ketchup in their bag.

Is it wrong to what he did? Yes. I just feel that the notification of law enforcement in the situation was frivolous. The cost of the cup and beverage to BK was probably less than 10 cents. How much taxpayer money was wasted (LEO time, fuel etc) and how much money did BK lose while their employees were meeting with LEOs and not performing the job duties they are being paid for. Granted, Winston was the cause of all this ....... But I think sometimes folks need to take a step back and look at the big picture.

Once again, I am not condoning what Winston did and by my belief theft of anything is wrong.
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Not laughing at theft, just the fact that law enforcement was called because of this incident. Law enforcement is overburdened in most jurisdictions as it is....... They don't need to be running to fast food restaurants every time someone slips a couple of extra packets of ketchup in their bag.

Is it wrong to what he did? Yes. I just feel that the notification of law enforcement in the situation was frivolous. The cost of the cup and beverage to BK was probably less than 10 cents. How much taxpayer money was wasted (LEO time, fuel etc) and how much money did BK lose while their employees were meeting with LEOs and not performing the job duties they are being paid for. Granted, Winston was the cause of all this ....... But I think sometimes folks need to take a step back and look at the big picture.

Once again, I am not condoning what Winston did and by my belief theft of anything is wrong.
Wrong is wrong...it is not a matter of doing a cost analysis to determine if it makes sense to call the police because of a theft. If someone siphoned a couple gallons from your gas tank would it be cost effective to call the police? Probably not but I bet you would call the police anyway. Like I said, it's about right and wrong.

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Old 12-04-2013, 06:18 PM   #364
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Not laughing at theft, just the fact that law enforcement was called because of this incident. Law enforcement is overburdened in most jurisdictions as it is....... They don't need to be running to fast food restaurants every time someone slips a couple of extra packets of ketchup in their bag.

Is it wrong to what he did? Yes. I just feel that the notification of law enforcement in the situation was frivolous. The cost of the cup and beverage to BK was probably less than 10 cents. How much taxpayer money was wasted (LEO time, fuel etc) and how much money did BK lose while their employees were meeting with LEOs and not performing the job duties they are being paid for. Granted, Winston was the cause of all this ....... But I think sometimes folks need to take a step back and look at the big picture.

Once again, I am not condoning what Winston did and by my belief theft of anything is wrong.
Often police are called not because of the exact nature of the incident but because such behavior is irrationale and can easily escalate to more dangerous incidents. I look at the subject example as acting like hooligans. When they are asked to leave, and they just laugh, then they are inviting more aggressive behaviour to make them leave. Who knows what could happen? A manager makes a bad decision, or a patron gets tired of their crap and decides to do something about it.
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I was reading a bunch of stuff on another fan sight that said he sexually assaulted a girl when he was a juvenile.

I have nothing solid on it though, FWIW
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Wrong is wrong...it is not a matter of doing a cost analysis to determine if it makes sense to call the police because of a theft. If someone siphoned a couple gallons from your gas tank would it be cost effective to call the police? Probably not but I bet you would call the police anyway. Like I said, it's about right and wrong.
Actually it has happened to me and no I didn't call the police...... I promptly purchased a gas cap lock. I am not disputing the fact that what Winston did was wrong.

I was just raised that you don't call the Fire Department unless your house is on fire, you don't call an ambulance unless someone's not breathing or missing a limb and you don't call the Police unless some serious crap is going down.
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Often police are called not because of the exact nature of the incident but because such behavior is irrationale and can easily escalate to more dangerous incidents. I look at the subject example as acting like hooligans. When they are asked to leave, and they just laugh, then they are inviting more aggressive behaviour to make them leave. Who knows what could happen? A manager makes a bad decision, or a patron gets tired of their crap and decides to do something about it.
Agreed...... But this type of behavior occurs every Friday and Saturday night across the Country without law enforcement involvement. And it was happening nearly three decades ago when I was in high school. There are always some young kids who want to act a fool. Not condoning the behavior, just saying this is nothing new.

Theft against businesses hurt the honest consumer as business must increase prices to offset loss. But I think we need to remember that law enforcement is a finite resource. If we start calling the cops every time some kids show out McDonald's, take the soap and shampoo from a motel room or eat a couple of grapes prior to paying at WalMart..... All of which are wrong, We are going to be screaming "where are the cops?" When people are getting shot, raped and stabbed.
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So doesnt this mean they womt go forward? If they wanted to move on it I would think they would just arrest him.
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So doesnt this mean they womt go forward? If they wanted to move on it I would think they would just arrest him.
First, I want to apologize for high jacking this thread and turning it quasi political. Obviously others here have differing views on the BK incident and I can respect your opinions.

My issue with this whole fiasco is that if they finally do charge him, it means they (police, local court system folks) knowingly allowed an alleged sexual assault suspect walk the streets for nearly a year. This BS about "we are trying to figure out what we are going to do" is garbage. Granted, if charged he could make bail but as someone accused of a sex crime I am sure he would be subject to GPS tracking to at least safeguard the public somewhat.

In reference to the earlier poster stating the rumor of a previous sexual assault...... While his juvenile records would be sealed his DNA would still be in the National Database. If there was a previous incident, his DNA would have been matched and there would have been no need for a voluntary sample from Winston. That would cast some doubt on that rumor. BUT, that is assuming the police did their job...... which in this situation just might not be the case.
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If they were going to charge him, it doesn't make sense for them to say they are going to announce it tomorrow. Of course, very little about this whole case has made a lot of sense. I'm not an attorney, but even if the state of Florida decides they don't have enough evidence to charge him, I don't think that precludes the victim from bringing a civil case. And Winston may think it makes financial sense to settle with her out of court when his big payday comes after next year.
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If they were going to charge him, it doesn't make sense for them to say they are going to announce it tomorrow. Of course, very little about this whole case has made a lot of sense. I'm not an attorney, but even if the state of Florida decides they don't have enough evidence to charge him, I don't think that precludes the victim from bringing a civil case. And Winston may think it makes financial sense to settle with her out of court when his big payday comes after next year.
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If they were going to charge him, it doesn't make sense for them to say they are going to announce it tomorrow. Of course, very little about this whole case has made a lot of sense. I'm not an attorney, but even if the state of Florida decides they don't have enough evidence to charge him, I don't think that precludes the victim from bringing a civil case. And Winston may think it makes financial sense to settle with her out of court when his big payday comes after next year.
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I agree about the announcement. Seems like he would have been arrested first, which he hasn't.

Lots of rumors going around. Only speculating, but I'm beginning to think she lied.
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I agree about the announcement. Seems like he would have been arrested first, which he hasn't.

Lots of rumors going around. Only speculating, but I'm beginning to think she lied.
probably right......or at least his witness was more credible than her....
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I agree about the announcement. Seems like he would have been arrested first, which he hasn't.

Lots of rumors going around. Only speculating, but I'm beginning to think she lied.
Or it could be, as with many high profile cases, the Prosecutor and the accused work out a time for the accused turn himself in. Usually that involves the accused being arrested, booked and then immediately taken for a bond hearing.
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SportsCenter just canceled their Ron Burgundy guest hosting thing for it. That was supposed to air at 6, press conference is at 2. Why would they plan for over 4 hours of straight coverage if he was innocent??
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SportsCenter just canceled their Ron Burgundy guest hosting thing for it. That was supposed to air at 6, press conference is at 2. Why would they plan for over 4 hours of straight coverage if he was innocent??
If Winston's lawyer doesn't know anything, then I doubt ESPN does either. They can do 4 hours on JW as a heisman candidate.
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Bah, was hoping they'd charge him, I hate FSU
hating FSU is one thing, but putting a kid in jail for a crime he didn't commit is something else.....I wouldn't even wish that on Dabo....wait a minute, let me think about that.....nope, can't even put Dabo behind bars.
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