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Old 12-05-2013, 11:28 AM   #581
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how many dang recruits is UT trying to have?
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how many dang recruits is UT trying to have?

UT does have a crazy big class. But they have something like 20 seniors and 24 juniors on this years team.
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I have heard anywhere from 36-38 with oversigns. However, UT probably will chase players off and/or pull offers from lower ranking recruits if they can get an elite level player. There is also talk of "blue shirting." Blue shirting is a loophole where a player can walk on, and once he arrives on campus, he gets a scholly. The player then counts for 2015 instead of 2014. However, the player may not be recruited, if I understand correctly, i.e., the blue shirt must not have gone through the normal recruiting process. I think it was first done by Arizona State.
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I have heard anywhere from 36-38 with oversigns. However, UT probably will chase players off and/or pull offers from lower ranking recruits if they can get an elite level player. There is also talk of "blue shirting." Blue shirting is a loophole where a player can walk on, and once he arrives on campus, he gets a scholly. The player then counts for 2015 instead of 2014. However, the player may not be recruited, if I understand correctly, i.e., the blue shirt must not have gone through the normal recruiting process. I think it was first done by Arizona State.
Our buddy UTVOL did a great job explaining what UT is doing in another thread.
But you pretty much nailed it.
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I don't think Butch understands the Oversigning Penalty that will come with this.

*He has two scholarships available for the 2013 year (83 on roster now.)
*That means he can have 2 JUCO's enroll in Dec/Jan and count back to the previous year.
*That would mean they have 31, as of now, for this signing period, which is 3 over the NCAA limit.
*For every person they sign over 28, the may get penalized 2 scholarships. Problem is they will be maxed out on scholarships and not have any to lose. So every person above 28 that they sign b/w NSD and May 31st will cost them 3 scholarships that they may or may not have.
*They will have a massive amount of attrition, not seen since the Houston Nutt rule was established.
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Butch Jones spent almost all day visiting Lamin and Williams at their juco. Vol sources say it is still unlikely that Lamin decommits. One big reason is the distance from Fayetteville to Knoxville. I'd like to think it is more than that.
I think the distance factor is the easy answer.
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Butch Jones spent almost all day visiting Lamin and Williams at their juco. Vol sources say it is still unlikely that Lamin decommits. One big reason is the distance from Fayetteville to Knoxville. I'd like to think it is more than that.
Lots of time off to plan trips when you don't make a bowl game.
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I have heard anywhere from 36-38 with oversigns. However, UT probably will chase players off and/or pull offers from lower ranking recruits if they can get an elite level player. There is also talk of "blue shirting." Blue shirting is a loophole where a player can walk on, and once he arrives on campus, he gets a scholly. The player then counts for 2015 instead of 2014. However, the player may not be recruited, if I understand correctly, i.e., the blue shirt must not have gone through the normal recruiting process. I think it was first done by Arizona State.


New Mexico State started the blueshirting trend. It works well until you end up promising a recruit a spot and then not being able to follow through b/c the numbers were not what you expected. It is a sketchy loophole...like an under the table scholly offer that does not count against you. If it is legal in the eyes of the NCAA, I have no problem with it...I would just be wary of going to a school where the coach is cut throat to the point of guaranteeing spots that are not necessarily there at the time.
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Lamin now has a 4-star rating with Rivals. Nice.
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Nice! Long time and well deserved
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Lamin has been rated a 4* since he committed.
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New Mexico State started the blueshirting trend. It works well until you end up promising a recruit a spot and then not being able to follow through b/c the numbers were not what you expected. It is a sketchy loophole...like an under the table scholly offer that does not count against you. If it is legal in the eyes of the NCAA, I have no problem with it...I would just be wary of going to a school where the coach is cut throat to the point of guaranteeing spots that are not necessarily there at the time.
Yes, I know that it was New Mexico State, some off the wall school. I don't why I put Arizona State.
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I thought he has been rated a 4 star, no?

regardless - I will be happy once this dude is on campus and enters our S&C program. BEAST. Him and Mr. Griffin have potential to be our DT freaks of the future, with Stallworth knocking on the door
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So Lee Schechter over at Bleacher Report wrote an article on what we could use before NSD, and in the comments he wrote that he feels we won't end up with Lamin. Needless to say, that took me by surprise. Has Lamin given any reason whatsoever to doubt his commitment at this point?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...14-signing-day
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So Lee Schechter over at Bleacher Report wrote an article on what we could use before NSD, and in the comments he wrote that he feels we won't end up with Lamin. Needless to say, that took me by surprise. Has Lamin given any reason whatsoever to doubt his commitment at this point?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...14-signing-day
He's reaffirmed his commitment. I don't know why that writer would think he won't end up here, but we'll see I guess.

Isn't he enrolling in January?
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especially with quarles going pro? maybe quarles isn't going pro now or something?
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Isn't he enrolling in January?
I was under the impression that yes, he is planning to enroll in January.
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Bleacher report is a joke. Zero credibility.
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