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Old 12-04-2013, 02:53 PM   #241
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Not those comments. Other sites.
I gotcha. From what I understand he has at least improved his situation and their is a shot he qualifies. Of course we won't know until later.
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Old 12-04-2013, 05:39 PM   #242
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I gotcha. From what I understand he has at least improved his situation and their is a shot he qualifies. Of course we won't know until later.
I certainly hope he does. We need him.
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:17 PM   #243
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He will be officially visiting Carolina during our big recruiting weekend on January 17.
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Old 12-06-2013, 05:34 PM   #244
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He will be officially visiting Carolina during our big recruiting weekend on January 17.
Looks like A LOT of big time prospects will be here that weekend on OVs.

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I'm sure some more will be rolling in. I could also be missing one or two.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:04 PM   #245
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If we can get Wesley green thats huge
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:36 PM   #246
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He's got a lot of work to do.. or he won't be at either school next year. Not smack. Just truth
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He's got a lot of work to do.. or he won't be at either school next year. Not smack. Just truth
According to who?
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Old 12-06-2013, 08:51 PM   #248
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According to who?
Its well documented how far behind he is in the classroom. Any paysite can tell you that
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Its well documented how far behind he is in the classroom. Any paysite can tell you that
Yeah, i'm aware of that, I was just wondering if you had your "sources." literally at the top of this page someone talked about his academics.
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Old 12-07-2013, 09:00 PM   #250
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are we referring to Wesley in these past few posts?
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Old 12-08-2013, 01:22 AM   #251
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are we referring to Wesley in these past few posts?
no....they were discussing Wideman....
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Old 12-08-2013, 02:06 AM   #252
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oh ok my bad I don't know why I thought that. Oh well. So if I have this right... if he signs w/ Carolina and does not qualify, we can bring an extra in? Or he counts because that 15 rule is enforced on signing day itself?
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oh ok my bad I don't know why I thought that. Oh well. So if I have this right... if he signs w/ Carolina and does not qualify, we can bring an extra in? Or he counts because that 15 rule is enforced on signing day itself?
it's my understanding, if he signs an LOI he counts whether he makes the grades or not.
That's a big concern accepting an LOI from someone that you think won't qualify.....especially with a tight class.
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yep, and the coaches may face 2-3 decisions like this in february. yikes.
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A letter of intent is conditional...that's why there are so many over signings. It doesn't count until they are enrolled.
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We can have 25 LOIs. We have to stay under the scholarship limit which I believe is 82 due to ncaa sanctions.
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We can have 25 LOIs. We have to stay under the scholarship limit which I believe is 82 due to ncaa sanctions.
Pretty sure the sanctions say we can only enroll 22 this year
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we can only have 82 on scholy
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A letter of intent is conditional...that's why there are so many over signings. It doesn't count until they are enrolled.
A LOI is a legally binding agreement between ths school and athlete. That is why schools don't oversign to the point there is no room if he qualifies. You usually see schools bringing in less because of failures to qualify.

It still counts against the class if a recruit fails to qualify. Let's say USC is bringing in 22 recruits in Aug, and Wideman fails to qualify after he signs his LOI. He will still be a counter, and the class actually brings in 21, but on paper USC has 22, and they can't bring in an oversign to replace him. The NCAA has closed that loophole.

Also, a recruit signing an LOI and failing to qualify means one less person able to backount for the school, in the future, because the nonqualifier counted against the class. The NCAA tried to eliminate a lot of backcounting, too. This year if you want to backcount a recruit, the school has to have the recruit sign a financial aid agreement in the calendar year of the class they want to count in. That is what Josh Malone and others did for UT.

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A LOI is a legally binding agreement between ths school and athlete. That is why schools don't oversign to the point there is no room if he qualifies. You usually see schools bringing in less because of failures to qualify.

It still counts against the class if a recruit fails to qualify. Let's say USC is bringing in 22 recruits in Aug, and Wideman fails to qualify after he signs his LOI. He will still be a counter, and the class actually brings in 21, but on paper USC has 22, and they can't bring in an oversign to replace him. The NCAA has closed that loophole.

Also, a recruit signing an LOI and failing to qualify means one less person able to backount for the school, in the future, because the nonqualifier counted against the class. The NCAA tried to eliminate a lot of backcounting, too. This year if you want to backcount a recruit, the school has to have the recruit sign a financial aid agreement in the calendar year of the class they want to count in. That is what Josh Malone and others did for UT.
good information....thanks. It seems like everyone has a different take on this.
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