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Old 12-09-2013, 12:28 PM   #21
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Default Re: How would you rate Coach Elliot's performance this year?

Grading is relative. What are you grading against? Are you grading this team versus last years? Are your grading our team versus other SEC teams? Are you grading them based on how you feel they have done?

Here is what I know:
1.) This OL was a weakness before Elliot. It was the reason we could not compete for a championship. We had a near decade of poor line play. It is now one of the strengths of our team.
2.) Recruiting of OL has greatly improved. We rarely landed 4*+ OL recruits.
3.) We had the leading rusher in the SEC behind that line.
4.) We made 19/28 4th Down Conversions. 9th in the nation on a team with 10 wins. The number of attempts tells you Spurrier has confidence in our line.
5.) We averaged 4.9 yards per rush. Strong
6.) We averaged 34 points per game. Strong
7.) We averaged 453 yards/game of offense. Again Strong.
8.) We averaged more than 5 minutes more per game of possession. Both a compliment to our OL and Defense. Long, sustained drives. Huge.

Bottom line is the OL did a good job at what was required of them. Some teams set up to shut down the run and we needed to pass(Clemson and TEN). And some games we need to run.

Elliot can do a better job, but don't sell him short. He has done a fantastic job.
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^ This is what I would have said.

Not as well organized or as coherent, but that's what I would have said.
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Default Re: How would you rate Coach Elliot's performance this year?

He deserves a B this year. Shell really developed, Cann was strong again, Patrick got A LOT better, and he deserves a ton of credit in developing Clayton Stadnik. I mean its also possible that Corey Robinson is drafted late 1st, early 2nd round. So basically he took a guy that was a defensive tackle and turned him into a first day draft choice.

But I think his real exam comes next season when he doesn't have a running QB to bail his guys out.
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:38 PM   #24
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Default Re: How would you rate Coach Elliot's performance this year?

Good enough for Nick Saban to want him on his staff. So what does that tell you? It tells me Nick thinks he's pretty damn good. If he went to Alabama & worked with their O-Line he'd do even better than he has here.
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He deserves a B this year. Shell really developed, Cann was strong again, Patrick got A LOT better, and he deserves a ton of credit in developing Clayton Stadnik. I mean its also possible that Corey Robinson is drafted late 1st, early 2nd round. So basically he took a guy that was a defensive tackle and turned him into a first day draft choice.

But I think his real exam comes next season when he doesn't have a running QB to bail his guys out.
Wonder if your last line might be a reason not to sell Noso short?? Just a thought.
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Old 12-09-2013, 02:01 PM   #26
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I feel some over valued the talent on our O Line. The starters were certainly the best we had but I don't think they reaped of great talent. Patrick played better but has always been inconsistent just like Robinson. We also had two Freshman playing at the Center position which is tough. Shell still needs to find that mean streak. Cann was probably the best of them all. Quite frankly I think Elliot got the best out of what he had to work with. I think the talent on our OL is good/average and that's what we got from them.
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The o-line's play was a tale of two halves. The first half of the season the o-line looked to be one of the best in the conference. However, this was largely a product of playing against teams who lacked top-notch talent on the d-line. In the second half of the season, our o-line was absolutely manhandled in the run game. Granted we played against some very good defensive lines. Overall our offensive line was better than years past but still has a ways to go. I still think the jury is out regarding Coach Elliott. He's a solid recruiter but our offensive line is underwhelming in run-blocking. I've heard some folks calling for him to be our next head coach, which is beyond ridiculous.
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I feel some over valued the talent on our O Line. The starters were certainly the best we had but I don't think they reaped of great talent. Patrick played better but has always been inconsistent just like Robinson. We also had two Freshman playing at the Center position which is tough. Shell still needs to find that mean streak. Cann was probably the best of them all. Quite frankly I think Elliot got the best out of what he had to work with. I think the talent on our OL is good/average and that's what we got from them.
Agree, everything starts up front and I think Elliot has done very well with what he has. I don't think bama would be interested in Elliot if he couldn't coach and develop OL at a very high level. We have won 10+ games the past 3 seasons and the only other SEC school to do that was Alabama. I think our OL is only going to improve from here on out as long as Elliot is the OL coach. He is bringing in more talent and continues to develop quality depth. I hope c stad starts at center and Waldrop moves to OG to fill in for the loss of Patrick.
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I mean its also possible that Corey Robinson is drafted late 1st, early 2nd round.
With three holding calls our last game? I just see him getting beat too much by faster guys. He did not have a good game v. taters.
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With three holding calls our last game? I just see him getting beat too much by faster guys. He did not have a good game v. taters.
I see no way Robinson is ever a top 2 round pick. I also think his NFL future is at either RT or even more likely inside. Absolutely no way that kid is a NFL LT unless he really really develops over the next year.
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I see no way Robinson is ever a top 2 round pick. I also think his NFL future is at either RT or even more likely inside. Absolutely no way that kid is a NFL LT unless he really really develops over the next year.
Corey Robinson would be foolish to go to the NFL this year. Of course we have a track record of guys jumping ship early, draft projections and common sense be damned. I like the fact that Spurrier doesn't try to keep kids in school to their detriment, but I would like to see him put more effort into advising kids to stay when it is clearly in their best interest. Some of the guys we've had jumping ship to get drafted in the 7th round or go undrafted are ridiculous. It's like they're dying to get out no matter the cost to their careers.
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He did a better job this year than in his previous 3 years, BUT
with the experience, depth and SIZE he had to work with, overall I'd call
it an Underachievement. .. Sorry if I hurt the feelings of the Coach Elliott
supporters, but we have faced much smaller, and much less talented
programs who do a MUCH better job on their O/Line than ours. Our O/Line
has faced "so-so" D/lines this season and struggled to hold their own
against them. We did very good "In Spots" in both the run and pass blocking
but as I said, overall, we underachieved on the line this year. If you gave
our talent, and our size and depth to O/Line coaches like the ones at
UT, or Florida etc... This unit would be much (MUCH) better than what they
put out here. I'm convinced of that. ALSO...If you look at the O/Line of
Auburns, and what their O/line coach has done there vs what we've done
here it puts things in perspective. Last year their O/line was average
AT BEST. This year, they might well be the best O/line in the country
and with a much more complicated scheme of blocking than ours here.

I'll give credit to Coach Elliott for the improvements. It was "OK" for
the most part. HOWEVER, "OK" isn't good for the size and experience we
had going for us this year on our Line. .... Someone stated it above and
was accurate in saying that we also seemed to have gotten worse as
the season went on rather than improve.

If it were a report card, I'd give the O/Line a C- for the season.

I pretty much agree with what Spurticus stated above. I thought that they would play a whole lot better giving the size and talent that we had on this O-Line. They got pushed around way too much and could not do anything against Pickens County Tech in the run game. I like Coach Elliott, but I think that he has got to do better and make us a more dominant O-Line.
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Everyone pointed to this season as the year we finaly start seeing results on the offensive line. I think next year the line play will be even better and will continue to trend towards being a strength as long as Elliot is here and is recruiting good players. OL isnt a unit that can be fixed in one or two seasons. Its a 3+ season thing.
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Elliot was able to plug in Stadnik for the injured Waldrop for most of the year with great success. This shows Elliots methods are directed at coaching a large group of players so that more than five are able to compete at a high level. Elliot had more than 5 guys prepared. Some of our opponents OL coaches couldn't get 3 OL ready to compete.
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But I think his real exam comes next season when he doesn't have a running QB to bail his guys out.
We have size but our guys don't "plow the field" when creating running lanes. I want to see more defenders knocked backward and not the other way around.

Also, the footwork has improved quite a bit, but we are not there yet on technique.

Even so, pass protection is light years from where it was the previous season.

I just don't want any more teams to be able to jam the line and stuff the run. If we have an elite line, we should be able to force our will and open holes even when they load the box. This year, we had major problems with that.
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I pretty much agree with what Spurticus stated above. I thought that they would play a whole lot better giving the size and talent that we had on this O-Line. They got pushed around way too much and could not do anything against Pickens County Tech in the run game. I like Coach Elliott, but I think that he has got to do better and make us a more dominant O-Line.
Would not put to much stock into what Pickens Tech did. They found a flaw in our alignment that gave away the play. They new if it was going to be a run or pass and were able to determine prior to snap if it was a run or pass. I know Deshaun Williams Dad and he told me this after the fact. SC and Elliot were made aware of this after the fact and are making changes to the OL to prevent this. I am sure others heard the same thing.
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One player on the OL said it best...MD makes us look better than we are.
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I'd consider him slightly below average...C ish.
We'll see how they pass protect next year for Dylan.
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