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Old 12-09-2013, 03:04 PM   #41
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While really coming along nicely on offense. I'd rather keep him (Cooper) there, even given depth problems at CB.
Depth at CB isn't a problem, it's non-existent
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Old 12-09-2013, 03:43 PM   #42
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I could be wrong, but did he even get playing time in the Coastal Carolina game? I saw almost everyone out there but him. Which is kind of telling.
He's been hurt.
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Old 12-09-2013, 03:44 PM   #43
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That's fine. Believe what you want, or just wait til the story breaks then. Papers are signed, he's gone.

There are posts like this all the time. Then nothing materializes.
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Old 12-09-2013, 03:51 PM   #44
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There are posts like this all the time. Then nothing materializes.
We will see. I was told by a close friend on Staff that Ahmad definitely was not playing in the Bowl game. I guess he could be wrong but he is their with the Team everyday. He did not know for sure about Christian transferring to Coastal for Baseball but I got the feeling that Christian is not coming back based on his response. Sure hope I am wrong tho his first love is Baseball.
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Any chance of a JUCO/PREP corner committing?
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:05 PM   #46
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While really coming along nicely on offense. I'd rather keep him (Cooper) there, even given depth problems at CB.

Being sound at the corner positions is a lot more important than having a wildcat qb or a part time receiver.As a corner he could still be a return guy and play a series or two at wildcat QB ala Gilmore.

To get the running presence at QB,you may have to work in Nasovitch even if he's not the starter to get that wildcat look.
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I'm hearing from sources that Mike Davis and Connor Shaw are transferring to Idaho.

My guy is pretty reliable, he posts here. Some of you might know him. He's a walk-on at Louisville, so I'm not sure how he gets such reliable info.
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:08 PM   #48
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Being sound at the corner positions is a lot more important than having a wildcat qb or a part time receiver.As a corner he could still be a return guy and play a series or two at wildcat QB ala Gilmore.

To get the running presence at QB,you may have to work in Nasovitch even if he's not the starter to get that wildcat look.
As mentioned by C2 earlier in this thread, Cooper did not play well enough at corner this fall, and that is why he moved to offense. Also, CB will be weak next year, but WR could be weak the following year if we don't develop the guys we have, so keeping Cooper there is better in the long run.
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So what's the deal with JUCO Ronnie Martin? Has he suffered an injury so severe that now he's totally out of the discussion equation at CB? He was once referred to as a lock-down cover corner that was a hidden gem for us....
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:17 PM   #50
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So what's the deal with JUCO Ronnie Martin? Has he suffered an injury so severe that now he's totally out of the discussion equation at CB? He was once referred to as a lock-down cover corner that was a hidden gem for us....
We need Martin to get healthy and need him to step up. He has the tools to be a very solid CB.
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:25 PM   #51
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That's fine. Believe what you want, or just wait til the story breaks then. Papers are signed, he's gone.
He may leave but if the papers were signed and sent to each school the story would be in the news on not just on Cockytalk! Hope the OP is wrong and Christian is staying, he is not gone as of today!
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As mentioned by C2 earlier in this thread, Cooper did not play well enough at corner this fall, and that is why he moved to offense. Also, CB will be weak next year, but WR could be weak the following year if we don't develop the guys we have, so keeping Cooper there is better in the long run.
Reportedly Smith did not play well there either.But, as i recall Jimmy Legree didn't exactly set the world on fire his first year so maybe one of the these guys we have mentioned can improve and become the player needed at CB,however it really looks like we need at least 2 of those corners to commit or else we might have a big problem.
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We need Martin to get healthy and need him to step up. He has the tools to be a very solid CB.

He has speed but has not developed from what I hear. If you're counting on him to fill the void I think you're gonna be real disappointed. Hope I'm wrong. We are hurting at CB, no way to spin it & a blind man could see this coming. Problem is, recognizing a problem & solving that problem are two different animals.
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:58 PM   #54
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Again, some of you are putting the cart before the horse.

Let's wait and hear if this "friendly source," is actually legit.
If not, then you guys worried over nothing.
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I will say this though...if Christian does leave it opens the door to get both DJ Smith and Wesley Green.

Just don't like depending on freshman to help on defense right away.
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It's all recruiting and someone is doing a poor job of it.
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Again, some of you are putting the cart before the horse.

Let's wait and hear if this "friendly source," is actually legit.
If not, then you guys worried over nothing.
Agree & disagree. Like you I have no idea if AC is leaving or staying but whether he goes or stays the CB is ridiculously thin. If you're not concerned with that position then you're definitely an optimist. As we stand today, this is a real problem. Maybe it won't be as bad as it looks when fall comes around & that is definitely a possibility but right now it looks BAD.
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Old 12-09-2013, 05:13 PM   #58
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I will say this though...if Christian does leave it opens the door to get both DJ Smith and Wesley Green.

Just don't like depending on freshman to help on defense right away.
Duke had two true freshman and a RS-frosh in their secondary this year, and those guys played pretty well. I'm not saying that is very common, and it may be easier to do in the ACC, but one or two fast young guys with size can be coached to play tight man to man. Where it sucks is in run support and in zone schemes obviously, but you never know.

It certainly isn't ideal to be losing everyone with experience at the same time... but win anyway, right?
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I hope Al Harris is bulking and hitting the gym hard. He maybe needed come fall.
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He has speed but has not developed from what I hear. If you're counting on him to fill the void I think you're gonna be real disappointed. Hope I'm wrong. We are hurting at CB, no way to spin it & a blind man could see this coming. Problem is, recognizing a problem & solving that problem are two different animals.
He needs to stay healthy. Who the heck is spinning anything? I know exactly what we have at CB and we need the younger guys to develop in a hurry. Martin is not a lost cause yet and he can be a high quality CB if he can stay healthy. Just because he did not play this year does not mean he cannot play. Did you say the same thing about Legree before he developed? I am sure you can talk to Spartanburg folks that will tell you Ronnie Martin can play - when healthy.
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